The Saga Continues, Those Who Demand That Women Who Have Been Sexually Assaulted Should be Heard are Amazingly Silent (3 Viewers)

[mdnuts]

Alyssa Milano said it the best way just , I think, yesterday/today(?): something along the lines of: the point of the metoo movement was never that all women should just be believed in everything they say, but rather, the default of never believing the woman should be changed.

Ok, now that's something I think most people can get on board with.

Some may say Milano is at best a complete hypocrite on the issue.

 

[AccessBlaster]

@moke123
Fair enough

 

[Isaac]

Jon, I couldn't agree with you more. Very well said.

 

[AccessBlaster]

'People need to hear the truth': Joe Biden denies sexual assault allegation

Hopefully the Clinton machine is greased and ready to go!

 

[The_Doc_Man]

At least now I see the beginnings of some airing over this allegation on the mainstream news agencies.

 

[mdnuts]

 

[Steve R.]

 

[Steve R.]

Just heard this on Fox news: Biden Vows To Destroy Campus Due Process Again If Elected

Alas, Democratic directives on how to treat people bringing sexual assault allegations is getting a tad confusing lately. A recent sexual assault allegation against Biden from former staff assistant Tara Reade has been ignored, downplayed, or torn apart by his supporters and by prominent liberal feminists. It seems student victims are to be believed to such an extent that protections for the accused aren't even necessary (a standard that also applies to folks bringing claims against non-favored politicians). But the narrative inconsistencies and unverifiable (or unbelievable) claims that Democrats say impartial mediators should never, ever scrutinize in campus assault cases are all apparently fair game when coming from a woman alleging that the Democratic presidential nominee assaulted her.

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Inconveniently, Biden himself spent much of his term as vice president championing ideas about sexual assault that make Reade's claims against him actionable (even without additional evidence) and render moot any testimony Biden might offer in his own defense. (Read more on Biden and Title IX from Emily Yoffe.)

Under the Obama administration, Title IX was mutated to give bureaucrats control over a wide range of campus conduct, speech, lesson plans, and interpersonal interactions, while simultaneously hacking away due process protections for students and staff accused of misconduct.

 

[Jon]

Harvey Weinstein has been found to have had an unfair trial in a New York court. Sound familiar? He wins on appeal. They are appealing his California case too. I believe if he wins that, he walks free.

Viewing the justice system from over the pond, it appears that the witch-hunt type conviction is common in the US. You have the George Floyd case, which I watched a lot of, where it was a foregone conclusion despite fentenal evidence to the contrary. You have Trump in his numerous cases, and his unfair trials in New York. Engoran saying his Mar a lago property is worth $18M, and all that nonsense. The Stormy Daniels case, where Trumps alleged bookkeeping error was from about 6 or 8 years ago. Drag it up just before the election. Now Weinstein, who was the key figure in the #metoo movement, did not have a fair trial. That is what happens when you adopt a posture of "Believe all women", instead of due process. In this case, the former influenced the latter so due process did not happen.

I've no idea if Harvey Weinstein is guilty or innocent. But I do know the justice system for these kind of cases suck.

 

[NauticalGent]

How justice system is a joke. Nothing more to say...

 

[moke123]

Harvey Weinstein has been found to have had an unfair trial in a New York court. Sound familiar? He wins on appeal. They are appealing his California case too. I believe if he wins that, he walks free.

Procedural errors happen all the time. All he won was a new trial, not an acquittal. He'll likely be re-tried.

 

[Jon]

And who did the overreaching in the Weinstein case? Prosecutor DA Alvin Bragg. What a coincidence! And now he is overreaching in the sham trial against Trump.

 

[moke123]

And who did the overreaching in the Weinstein case?

Actually it was the judge. He allowed improper testimony. It's not uncommon.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Actually it was the judge. He allowed improper testimony. It's not uncommon.

We've noticed

 

[Jon]

Actually it was the judge. He allowed improper testimony. It's not uncommon.

Who was asking for the improper testimony? DA Bragg!

 

[AccessBlaster]

"The report argues that Bragg charged Trump with 34 felony counts using an untested legal theory that elevated misdemeanor allegations to a felony."

That might explain why other prosecutors passed on the witch hunt. They probably didn't want a Supreme Court reversal on their record.

 

[Jon]

That might explain why other prosecutors passed on the witch hunt. They probably didn't want a Supreme Court reversal on their record.

It didn't bother Bragg. He is used to it now.