This will oust the corruption of transgender (1 Viewer)

[Isaac]

I was just reading that article a few minutes ago. Liberals have tried hard to gaslight us, i.e. "oh the problem with women's sports doesn't really ever happen" [meanwhile I read dozens of articles of transgender people taking trophies], now the same with this issue.

Well of COURSE it's going to happen. People in prison are desperate for sex - which severe level of desperation causes SEVERE problems.

In my opinion we should do what some other countries do, make conjugal visits a normal thing. Trying to enforce abstinence among prisoners is a losing proposition, and far more than lose, it causes severe abuses and crimes to occur.

Of course people are going to claim to 'be' a woman to get into a womens' prison...Sheesh, do they not see this stuff coming, or they just don't care?

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

What Happened?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1875160082822132222

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

The prison population contains a higher percentage of trans people than the norm:-

https://twitter.com/x/status/1882730712337658106

 

[Isaac]

Let's hope society doesn't make the same mistake here as it has with other similar things, normalizing absurd behavior until we're numb to it

 

[Isaac]

Therapists sound alarm after study shows dramatic rise in gender dysphoria among children

Psychiatrists and therapists weighed in after a new study found gender dysphoria cases among young patients skyrocketed over a ten year period in England.

www.foxnews.com

"Social contagion"
"50-fold increase"
Schools and doctors promoting gender confusion.

Confusion is not immutable! It doesn't have to be this way

 

[The_Doc_Man]

This should make things interesting for trans women.

Trans Women Notified Of Removal From Women’s Prisons Days After Trump’s ‘Two Sexes’ Executive Order

One of the women sued the Trump administration, alleging the order violates her constitutional rights and puts her “at an extremely high risk of harassment, abuse, violence, and sexual assault.”

www.aol.com

As a man you can't get into a woman's prison unless you claim to be transgender. These people are criminals, not stupid - although they did get caught.

As usual, Trump throws yet another curve ball. Or, given the subject, should I say "throws a change-up"?

 

[Isaac]

This should make things interesting for trans women.

Trans Women Notified Of Removal From Women’s Prisons Days After Trump’s ‘Two Sexes’ Executive Order

One of the women sued the Trump administration, alleging the order violates her constitutional rights and puts her “at an extremely high risk of harassment, abuse, violence, and sexual assault.”

www.aol.com

As usual, Trump throws yet another curve ball. Or, given the subject, should I say "throws a change-up"?

Doc I have one observation that's been bothering me the last week or so. It's something that I kind of hate to admit and it's hard for me to even make this post because it kind of undermines my fellow conservatives arguments. But in the interest of total HONESTY which is ALWAYS what I strive for I must post it , I feel, to remain honest. I actually am worried about those people facing an increased level of harassment or violence if they get switched back to the prison of their biological gender. Now there may be some way to help that or mitigate it but I'm just saying it is something that worries me.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I actually am worried about those people facing an increased level of harassment or violence if they get switched back to the prison of their biological gender.

I cannot dispute your concern. I have no immediate answer, though. However, surely there have been (non-trans) gays in prisons before and it would not take them long to be "outed." What did they do?

 

[Isaac]

I cannot dispute your concern. I have no immediate answer, though. However, surely there have been (non-trans) gays in prisons before and it would not take them long to be "outed." What did they do?

I am afraid in many cases they just suffered. Perhaps one solution as much as they won't want to hear it is to just stop acting like a different gender. I mean for example if you are a man stop wearing dresses and lipstick. Although I'm sure there's more to it than that when they've been living as if they were another gender for years it's probably hard to undo in an instant. I'm not really sure what they can do other than hope that they are in a good system that protects them. I have visited some prisons that did not seem at all like the wild TV stereotype by any means. I think it all just depends on where you are

 

[AngelSpeaks]

I cannot dispute your concern. I have no immediate answer, though. However, surely there have been (non-trans) gays in prisons before and it would not take them long to be "outed." What did they do?

What about cops convicted of a felony? They just don't go in general population or they have a special transgender prison. Real women have been victims of transgenders. What about them?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Part of the problem is that society, for a very long time, refused to acknowledge that a person could legitimately have a problem such as gender dysphoria, so their "embedded institutions" never allowed for such a thing. We now know that it is a real thing with a demonstrable brain structure issue to back it up. However, society - and in particular, the religiously devout part of society - has been slow to face the problem. All sorts of "special cases" keep popping up that complicate imprisonment and we don't have good answers here.

 

[Isaac]

What about cops convicted of a felony?

I think (think, I have no independent knowledge but from what I've heard), the cop is indeed held in a more separate type 'home', whatever that may mean specific to that prison.

 

[Isaac]

Part of the problem is that society, for a very long time, refused to acknowledge that a person could legitimately have a problem such as gender dysphoria, so their "embedded institutions" never allowed for such a thing. We now know that it is a real thing with a demonstrable brain structure issue to back it up. However, society - and in particular, the religiously devout part of society - has been slow to face the problem. All sorts of "special cases" keep popping up that complicate imprisonment and we don't have good answers here.

I have a slightly different tack - well wait, let me first say I think to some extent you are right, but "also" in addition to that, I think the current situation is better reflected by this: "We always knew about this problem due to transvestites, but only recently has it switched from being an abnormal problem to a beautiful and wonderful thing to be embraced/encouraged/funded". That is probably more what the 'religiously devout' part of society (and frankly, probably 70% of the rest of society too) is balking at.

It's not that we didn't know it happens. It's the new (~ past 5 years) way of accepting/encouraging/embracing/funding it.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

It's not that we didn't know it happens. It's the new (~ past 5 years) way of accepting/encouraging/embracing/funding it.

I've posted links to detailed articles on the subject, so it is pretty clear that gays and folks at the extreme trans situation are born that way, far greater than a 50/50 bet. Maybe 80/20 or 90/10 that this is a physiological issue. In fact, Isaac, you were a person to whom I directly responded regarding such issues and a discussion of "conversion therapy."

Calling it the "new way of accepting it" is perhaps the wrong way to phrase it. It is the gay & trans new way of NOT accepting continuation of the status quo. When the African heritage folks got tired of 2nd-class citizenship, they (correctly) started protesting and putting themselves out for all to see in public places. They defied the "separate but equal" baloney and sought full social integration - which to some degree actually happened, though there is still progress to be made. The LGBTQA+ group is tired of being 2nd-class citizens as well. And do you blame them?

 

[Isaac]

I've posted links to detailed articles on the subject, so it is pretty clear that gays and folks at the extreme trans situation are born that way, far greater than a 50/50 bet. Maybe 80/20 or 90/10 that this is a physiological issue. In fact, Isaac, you were a person to whom I directly responded regarding such issues and a discussion of "conversion therapy."

Calling it the "new way of accepting it" is perhaps the wrong way to phrase it. It is the gay & trans new way of NOT accepting continuation of the status quo. When the African heritage folks got tired of 2nd-class citizenship, they (correctly) started protesting and putting themselves out for all to see in public places. They defied the "separate but equal" baloney and sought full social integration - which to some degree actually happened, though there is still progress to be made. The LGBTQA+ group is tired of being 2nd-class citizens as well. And do you blame them?

I'd say the privileges they have put them in a special status, not equal. We've already discussed those so I won't retype here.

 

[Isaac]

Trump decrees "There are only two Genders"

With the way the reproductive systems of male and female are set up, it's obviously not normal to have the urge to stick your p___ in another man's butt, but nonetheless is a common-enough problem that some people do wish this. If you consider the behavior of various mammals, their proclivity...

www.access-programmers.co.uk

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I'd say the privileges they have put them in a special status, not equal. We've already discussed those so I won't retype here.

Only because the Liberal Progressives were pandering for votes. Admittedly this problem is a tightrope walk. You have to worry about overcorrecting because no matter what else they are, they are people and (for the most part) U.S. Citizens.

 

[Isaac]

Only because the Liberal Progressives were pandering for votes. Admittedly this problem is a tightrope walk. You have to worry about overcorrecting because no matter what else they are, they are people and (for the most part) U.S. Citizens.

I agree. In some cases an intervention is needed to bring them up to 'equal' treatment. This is good, as no one should harrass or torment any of us.
In some cases (my humble opinion) those new norms truly bring them up to equal, but in some cases they go up to Special.

 

[AccessBlaster]

This will oust the corruption of transgender​

 

[Isaac]

I feel like I know what the next step is in this fight that is often summarized like the order "A person assigned male at birth may no longer compete on a women's sports team" -- they're going to do the first thing I would if I were on their side, I'd start changing the birth certificates of everyone born in my state (if I were a crazy lib governor or birth certificate controller person) - to say something like "Sex undetermined". i bet it happens soon! As libs say, "Watch this space".