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Is that verbatim? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Yes, their government lawyers have actually said that "current law" requires them to consider the "totality of the situation" which includes race, employment, accent, etc. That's scary and wrong to me - totally unconstitutional.
 
I believe they still can if you don't live in the Central District of California (per the supreme courts order it's not a national RO.) Homan still says they can go on looks.
Why not also say that ICE can't carry guns and must wear blindfolds and tie their shoelaces together?
 
This immigration fury has one purpose. The creation of a fascist state.
Now the idiot at 1600 Pennsylvania wants to remove nationalized citizenship from them. I wonder what it will take for many of his worshipers to see just how evil he really is.

Trying to remove naturalized citizenship is (one of) the dumbest idea ever - citizenship is permanent, period, end of story
 
Why not also say that ICE can't carry guns and must wear blindfolds and tie their shoelaces together?
Because not carrying guns and tying shoelaces together doesn't protect a constitutionally protected class of people that aren't to be discriminated against. There are TONS of brown skinned, Mexican, accent-bearing people who speak limited english who are here legally or even citizens. If even one gets rounded up and detained and required to "prove" their citizenship, that's wrong. Don't think discriminatory roundups can't affect you just because you feel immune and safe due to your heritage. They can. If this becomes commonplace, then why not round up people who "look like" criminals? Why not round up everyone with a tatoo and a flat brimmed cap? Why not round up everyone who plays bridge in any locality where gambling is illegal? Why not round up everyone who seems nervous, based on the fact that they might have committed a crime? Where does it end?

You have to have reasonable suspicion, not just round up 100's of mexicans to "check" on them all at the same time - that's wrong
 
@Isaac
Trying to remove naturalized citizenship is (one of) the dumbest idea ever - citizenship is permanent, period, end of story
So, it can't be revoked if you lied to get it?
ICE cannot just round up people who are hanging out where illegals congregate?
Israel has to lay down and surrender?

Look at your opinions. You always side with the criminals just because you think you are being nice. In all cases, they caused their own problems. I don't think you really mean to side with the criminals and yet you do. In your opinions, the criminals always win because they get to keep what they've stolen and the innocents always loose. Maybe, being "nice" isn't the answer.
 
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Israel has to shoot enemy combatants, not civilians. You keep saying I say they should lay down and surrender, except I never did say that.
No, ICE cannot just round up bunches of certain-looking people and detain them until they prove citizenship. Apparently you do not have black hair.
Maybe if you told a substantial, impact-bearing lie to get it, yes.

When constitutional protections start to erode, they endanger all of us as anyone can say you are 'criminal' based on your look.
 
There are reports of unaccompanied minors working in the marijuana fields.
 
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Israel has to shoot enemy combatants, not civilians.
Not sure how the Israelis can hit the combatants when they are holding citizens in front of them as shields. Guess Hamas wins on that one. Do something evil and win. I like their style and you are such a nice person that you would let them get away with that action. You are always calling for Israel to make peace. Read some history is all I can say. This is NOT Israel's fault and they've done everything humanly possible to make peace with people who don't want peace. All they want is a pile of dead Jews. There is no peace with Hamas. That is where we are today. Israel will agree to the 60 day ceasefire and Hamas will violate it as they have violated every other peace treaty they've agreed to. Once Israel invaded shortly after the Oct 7th attack, Israel should never have stopped. They were winning. But they didn't want to kill civilians. Unlike Muslims, Jews revere life. THEY were being nice and trying to save civilians. But Hamas doesn't care about civilians. Civilians are cannon fodder and only good as shields because they make the Israeli's look bad when the civilians die. And you have bought hook line and sinker into their rhetoric. So instead of calling for Hamas to step down, you choose to call for Israel to step down. Ergo, Hamas wins. Why do you think that Hamas has steadfastly refused to return the hostages?
No, ICE cannot just round up bunches of certain-looking people and detain them until they prove citizenship.
ICE is rounding up people who congregate where illegals congregate. If you don't want to get swept up. Don't go where illegals congregate. Very simple.
Maybe if you told a substantial, impact-bearing lie to get it, yes.
How about if you are a convicted rapist? What kind of lie would you consider acceptable? How about what Ilhan Omar did? Her family was not approved for immigration to the US so she changed her name and went with a different family. Then later, she married her brother to get him citizenship. Do you know how much a mail-in ballot sells for in her district? $250. A few thousand purchased ballots in the right cities ensure her election.
 
Obviously she shouldn't be required to carry her passport with her at all times

But in many nations today - not only the totalitarian ones - you are always required to have your identity papers. For the USA, what do you think the "Real ID" card is? Rather than fight the system, I got one, but I could see folks having a lot of trouble getting the documentation they might need for the Real ID card. Particularly if the folks were in certain parts of New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, or if they were in Kerr County, Texas after the recent floods washed away ALL of your critical papers (and your whole house).
 
How about if you are a convicted rapist? What kind of lie would you consider acceptable? How about what Ilhan Omar did? Her family was not approved for immigration to the US so she changed her name and went with a different family
Exactly. Slippery slope.
 
But in many nations today - not only the totalitarian ones - you are always required to have your identity papers.
I don't honestly know how many developed countries that's true in. Maybe, maybe not, but I'd like the USA not to be like that.
When we get to where anyone can be randomly detained based on some basic racial characteristics, we're really regressing to a bad time
 
You can thank the Democrats for instigating this reaction. This is a natural response to unhinged leftwing border policies. You act like all of this is happening in a vacuum. The Democrats created an immigration app and invited the world to use it, what did you think would happen?
Are you kidding? Since when does two wrongs make a right? You can't blame anyone else for the evil doings of other people, other than the evil doer themselves.

It must be really strange to be so blinded, that you can find a way to blame the Dems for the evil in your party leader.
 
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Does your wife have a birth certificate? How about a passport? You are scaring yourself (and her) for no reason. Unless she's picking weed or hanging out on corners looking for day work or working for known employers of illegal aliens she isn't going to be harassed just out shopping.

Every person in the country illegally needs to repatriate themselves, preferably voluntarily. They are all criminals. I don't care how nice they are or how long they've been here.

Once we've gotten rid of the 20 million Biden invited in to drain our welfare system, we can talk about legalizing but NOT EVER making citizens of, people who've been here for more than 10 years who have no criminal record. At this point, we're only 100,000 in to the backlog. The easy pickings are gone and now ICE is going to places where illegals congregate.

ICE also needs to start arresting mayors and governors who are ordering their people to not cooperate with ICE. Harboring criminals is also a crime. So arrest the employers and and apartment building owners who harbor the criminals.
Nazism. You should become a poster girl for the party.
 
@Isaac

Look at your opinions. You always side with the criminals just because you think you are being nice.
Once again Pat goes down the extreme road. Have you ever noticed you have absolute reactions to everything said, that doesn't align your mania. Isaac has proven to be a moderate, thinking human being, on many issues. You, pretty much never.

I'm sorry Isaac for coming to your defense, nothing like having a pariah on your side. eh? I'll try not to side with you in the future.
 
Are you kidding? Since when does two wrongs make a right? You can't blame anyone else for the evil doings of other people, other than the evil doer themselves.

It must be really strange to be so blinded, that you can find a way to blame the Dems for the evil in your party leader.
I blame republicans all the time, you just don't seem notice.
 
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I'm going to watch this thread through a moderator's eyeglasses for a while. It is getting a bit heated. Please maintain some modicum of decency and respect as you discuss these politically oriented issues with your fellow members. Remember that because of newly passed laws in England, the forum as a whole can get penalized for our intemperate and disrespectful language. Let's be careful, shall we?
I edited my language in post #2,167 hopefully that helps.
 

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