Trump Administration Predictions (7 Viewers)

I am not sure what you mean by "furnish support". There is nothing unusual about governors going to jail, four recent governors of Illinois have gone to jail, after being tried and convicted.
I am not sure what I mean either, because that's the point - it may not have happened yet, so none of us can point to it. The threat was hypothetical.
IF it happens. Move on.

Illinois is special. But if you knew that, then why'd you say what you said? As if a governor going to jail would be the end of the world
 
Rethink immigration laws that prevent the US from getting the workers our economy needs.

I think the thing that most needs to be reimagined is visas for working. The indians all come here and continue moving up, hiring their comrades , so the problem snowballs. We should be prioritizing work visas for tech work, for example, for Mexico - our neighbor, not some country across the world. There are plenty of tech skilled people in Mexico - Stop giving all the visas to indians.
 
Cheaper products from overseas have improved our standard of living. What objective should the government have other than improving our standard of living?

wrong, it's made us vulnerable as a nation that no longer manufactures. Safety is the #1 priority, long before standard of living.
We are responsible for our OWN standard of living. The government shouldn't be our nanny. The government should just provide opportunity on a level playing field, if even that
 
The trade war was started along time ago, if you weren't so focused on the current administration you might have noticed. We have an intractable trade relationship with most countries because of weak American administrations that have a globalist mentality and a America last view point.
What? do you make this stuff up? You are uttering pure propaganda. They said it enough times and now you believe it. American Capitalism is the power behind everything wrong with out government.

America last, what a bunch of nonsense.
 
Trump has been convicted of crimes in court.
That ceased to make an impression on me when judges are so corrupt and have a horse in the race so that they give the jury inaccurate instructions to sway their decision. Plus the cases are still pending appeal. And a couple of the judges are refusing to impose sentence in order to prevent the appeal from moving forward.
 
wrong, it's made us vulnerable as a nation that no longer manufactures. Safety is the #1 priority, long before standard of living.
We are responsible for our OWN standard of living. The government shouldn't be our nanny. The government should just provide opportunity on a level playing field, if even that
Roger is correct, imports are the biggest anti-inflation tool we have. As far as the level playing field. You're kidding right? Every aspect of our government is about giving power ,money, and every advantage to the ruling class. Hint" the ruling class is not in the government.

Nanny State? what does that mean anyway? Doc or Pat will use that question to give one more of their sophomoric insults. I can wait. You however, might want to give that some thought. How did this all get started? it was in the 70s. The reasons at the time were valid, and since then it has not been a one sided thing. unlike Blaster blaming Dems for everything. Take a look at inflation for the last 50 years. Take a look at the growth of Walmart in that time, look at amazon over the last 20 years. Last, take a look at real wages for the lower half of the country. our hardest workers work for barely living wages, even with 3 jobs between 2 people. Yes, moving manufacturing over seas is definitely a double edged sword.

But raising the tariffs on aluminum, steel, or building materials is exactly the opposite of what we need to do to fix this.
 
You must not believe in capitalism. Where the government is involved in "improving our standard of living", that usually involves a centralized socialist economic system. Is there any socialist country with a high standard of living. Cuba for example?
Like building roads and stuff?
 
I think the thing that most needs to be reimagined is visas for working. The indians all come here and continue moving up, hiring their comrades , so the problem snowballs. We should be prioritizing work visas for tech work, for example, for Mexico - our neighbor, not some country across the world. There are plenty of tech skilled people in Mexico - Stop giving all the visas to indians.
If we want to improve the state of our nation, we need to deepen our relations with both Mexico and Canada. More investment, less barriers to trade, and a immigrant work policy that benefits everyone. Although, many more people benefit from it than the cool aid dispensers would have us believe.
 
Oh, so many reasons that life seems to end up better when done in the traditional model. Many of them spiritual, emotional, some of them financial, physical. Society keeps trying to reinvent stuff but never comes out with a better model than Mom and Dad, both present, both involved, married for life.
 
If we want to improve the state of our nation, we need to deepen our relations with both Mexico and Canada. More investment, less barriers to trade, and a immigrant work policy that benefits everyone. Although, many more people benefit from it than the cool aid dispensers would have us believe.
Agree
 
Cheaper products from overseas have improved our standard of living.
But at what cost. Yes, I can buy a plastic fly swatter for $1.19 in 6 different colors. The one that hung on the back of our cellar door when I was a kid was metal and wood and not very pretty but still functional and made in the USA by American workers. Somehow, when we started making washing machines in Mexico, the price didn't decrease but the expected lifespan dropped by more than 10 years. The more fancy stuff we put into our appliances so the manufactures can keep increasing the price, the more susceptible they are to failure. My $900 stove died 1 week after the 1 year warranty expired due to a "board" failure. It happened when my father and his wife were visiting and out of the blue, the buzzer just started wailing. Do you have any idea how hard it is to unplug an electric stove? It cost $600 to replace the blown board because I couldn't wait for a new stove to be delivered in 3 days since I was feeding a house full every night with the grandchildren and cousins coming to visit.

When I go appliance shopping, I look for versions with manual controls and the fewest fancy features whenever possible. I really don't need my washing machine to be smarter than I am. My brother who is into expensive gadgets had a German machine that probably set him back $4,000 and it certainly was smarter than me. Who knew that just squeezing most of the water out of table linens that were soaking in the sink would result in clean linens with exactly the same amount of water delivered by the final spin "dry". This machine had a scale and it weighed the load before it added the water and went to work so it could deliver a load that weighed the same at the end. Maybe one of the Germans here can explain the utility of this particular function to me.
 
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Oh, so many reasons that life seems to end up better when done in the traditional model. Many of them spiritual, emotional, some of them financial, physical. Society keeps trying to reinvent stuff but never comes out with a better model than Mom and Dad, both present, both involved, married for life.
Agreed. And yet, God gave the power to chose.
 
Yes, I believe he already has by stemming the flow at the the southern border. This alone will pay massive dividends.
I noticed that you changed the subject when I challenged Trump's economic nationalism as lowering our standard of living.

Immigration also improves our standard of living. Who do you think builds our houses and staffs our nursing homes.
 
You must not believe in capitalism. Where the government is involved in "improving our standard of living", that usually involves a centralized socialist economic system. Is there any socialist country with a high standard of living. Cuba for example?
The main point of government is improving our standard of living. It can do that by getting out of the way of the free market. However some services are necessarily provided by government.

However, Pat Hartmann thinks the government should decide what we should buy.
 
With healthcare, we need to some sort of universal system, so as to prevent these incentives.

There is a tightrope walk inherent in that statement. It is those incentives that push people into the medical profession. It is all of the attempts to "level the playing field" that has driven medical professionals to retire early. Your statement is therefore a bit one-sided in that it doesn't address the other side of the issue.

We talk about shortages in medical staffing here in the USA. Corporate America has tried to shore up hospitals but large medical conglomerates have taken over medical services in a way that probably is dangerously close to monopolistic practices. The corporations push to make money from people whose care is sometimes very expensive, to the point that the corporations use actuarial methods on individual people as a predictor of whether the person is worth saving - even though actuarial science is a statistical discipline and statistics normally isn't valid for individuals.

It is a delicate balancing act. From some anecdotes on this forum, we hear about medical systems in other countries where you don't have to pay for medical service but if you don't, you DO have to wait long enough for your illness to worsen. Like starting out with stage I cancer but by the time your turn comes, it has developed to stage III or IV and your remaining life span got cut in half or worse.
 
Immigration also improves our standard of living. Who do you think builds our houses and staffs our nursing homes.
The people willing to work for the lowest wages. Who else? What happened to the American workers who used to take those jobs? I wonder if they became programmers? Everyone can learn to code according to certain exceptionally dumb members of Congress. So, all you novices out there who are afraid to code need to get on board:ROFLMAO:
 
The so called free health care is a misnomer, its paid for through taxes obviously. It's government run with little room for innovation, kinda like our veterans administration.
 

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