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Executions around the world, http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34318470
  • Pakistan has executed at least 239 people since December 2014
  • In July Amnesty said it believed Iran had put 694 people to death between 1 January and 15 July
  • In August, Amnesty International said Saudi Arabia had executed 102 people in the first six months of 2015, compared with 90 in the whole of 2014
  • Figures for executions in some other countries in 2015 are not yet available
  • By the end of last year, the other countries with the highest number of reported executions were Iraq: 61, USA: 35, and Sudan: 23
  • China and North Korea refuse to divulge information on the number of executions that take place within their borders
 

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To be honest, Not much Information (if any) is not doctored beyond belief before leaving North Korea's borders.
 

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And of course Russia never kills anyone...
 

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In 2014, 423 (6.8%) of world executions (excluding China) were carried out in Saudi Arabia. The government does not release figures on executions in the Kingdom but human rights organisations try to keep tabs.

But lets be clear. In the Kingdom, it is common for Women (sometimes men) to be executed for Witchcraft. Something the late King's brother signed up for.

Vice President Joe Biden will lead a presidential delegation to pay respects in Saudi Arabia, according to a White House press release.

"I always appreciated his frankness, his sense of history, his pride in his efforts to move his country forward, and his steadfast belief in the U.S.-Saudi relationship," Biden said in the release regarding the Brother's death.

Vice President Biden was an easy target. The point is that all political leaders care more about the economics than the Human Rights aspect. Biden supports a Family Owned Oil Company with a flag like many leaders around the world.
North Korea had stadium with mandatory spectator attendance for its executions. Proof that socialism isn't immune from ignoring human rights. This was not totally uncommon in Cuba either.
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I have no other way to put it so here goes: Your response is the epitomy of stupidity. Why? Try to figure it out and maybe not all is lost.
 

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And ..?
what are you trying to achieve ? or bring to our attention ?
 

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Is this a question /view on the death penalty or one countries approach to the death penalty.

if your anti death penalty - then that's fine -
If your pro death - that's fine - you can have a view - but your view will be slanted either way (Pro/Anti)

it also depends on how you were brought up and where - being a Brit - I am more tempered against the death penalty .

but I also think the population needs thinning out a bit. and the death penalty is one of getting ride of Criminals -
- However I would not be the best person to sit in judgement -so I am a little two faced on this one.

It could also been deemed that locking people up for life is in-human - so a bullet in the head might be kinder ( Not so sure on this one myself )

but hey ho - not going to lose any sleep over it
 

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It could also been deemed that locking people up for life is in-human - so a bullet in the head might be kinder ( Not so sure on this one myself )

That would be why Anders Breivik only got 21 years. Norway, like several other European nations, considers life imprisonment to be at least as inhumane as the death penalty. Of course, they retained the capability to hold someone indefinitely as long as their case is reviewed every 5 years if they are felt to not be rehabilitated, so they actually do have effective life imprisonment, they just hide and won't admit it.
 

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Well, I guess you can't conquer 25% of humanity without an atrocity or two, but THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW.
 

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Yes life was brutal, home and abroad, and state executions was part of that.

Which is todays subject.
Maybe for you. I find it hard to believe you have the balls to point fingers at anyone. BTW I don't need to be reminded what the UK script is.
 
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Maybe for you. I find it hard to believe you have the balls to point fingers at anyone. BTW I don't need to be reminded what the UK script is.

Please expand what you mean - otherwise it just seems belligerent nonsense from start to finish?
 

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Please expand what you mean - otherwise it just seems belligerent nonsense from start to finish?
Your right it is intended to be belligerent.

Yes life was brutal, home and abroad, and state executions was part of that.

Which is todays subject.
You and your countrymen cherry pick whats wrong with the US, I like to cherry pick also. Call me a troll, ignore my post I really don't care. Outsiders that read these exchanges can make up their own minds on who throws the first stone. "US keeps exalted company, sort of"
 

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Let's make AB's point a bit more directly.

How about we ask Spain and Argentina just how 'enlightened' the United Kingdom is? Or India; I seem to recall a fair bit of unpleasantness there, too, not too incredibly long ago. To be quite honest, the UK have only very recently stepped out of the role of 'international thug', even if it's to move into the role of "George Bush's Bitch".

You're also painting all of America with one single brush. Tell me, how would you react to someone pointing out that the whole lot of you are hooligans who riot at every sporting event, have an overblown sense of your own nobility, and all have horrible teeth? That's what I thought.

To get back on topic:

The fact of the matter is that the death penalty is an issue that is a fundamental divide in the US, with a 65/30 split favoring the penalty in at least some cases. Also, keep in mind that it is, constitutionally, primarily a state-level issue, not a federal issue, and about 40% of the states have either banned the death penalty outright or imposed a moratorium.

There are CONSTANTLY arguments going on over the topic, and it comes back into the public consciousness every time someone is about to be executed. I would recommend reading the Wikipedia article on the debate as a starting point. Personally, I feel it is justified in some situations (Timothy McVeigh sort of comes to mind), but vastly over-used, and used in too many (read: any) cases where there isn't 100% incontrovertible proof of guilt.
 

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Are you saying that isn't true? :confused:

I'm not judging. But then again...

 

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