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[Bladerunner]

So the event is not true but the numbers of people is?

Water does not have to be deep to drown you if the current is strong.

I suspect an event happened but not as per the biblical story, like other stories in the bible a totally unconnected happening is given significance by the fiction writers

Brian

have you not been listening Brian?????? Only today's computer could replicate the intricate, woven details of the Bible..... For over 2000 years, 40+ authors and 66 Books. were written yet what is concealed in the Old Testament is revealed in the New Testament and what is concealed in the New Testament is revealed in the Old Testament.

Take the story of God giving Moses the first five books (Torah) of the Bible to write. Yet in the New Testament, Jesus refers the to books of the beginning as written by Moses. How many years was that.......1500? or somewhere about that.

Oh come on Brian,,,you have more smarts that that. Authors separated by hundreds of miles in some cases and in most all cases they were separated by massive amounts of time, except for the apostles of the NT. Even they went their own way and were in different areas when they wrote their books given to them by God. I mean people back then did not just go to Amazon and buy a book and set down and read it. Hell, most of them were Dumb (illiterate).

Brian, I can prove the Bible...But I think you have a bigger problem. It appears that you do not believe that Jesus Christ died on the Cross for your sins. If this is the case you indeed have a very large problem and nobody can help you except yourself.

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

I know you really believe all the rubbish you are spouting. Doesn't make it true though.

Fact is Abram was willing to kill his own son because voices in his head told him to. Following voices in one's head is a symptom of mental illness.

This is the thing about your God. If he were real he would be tried for crimes against humanity. He killed every first born son in Egypt because the Egyptian king would not release the Hebrews. Why punish the innocent for the crimes of their king over whom they had no control?

Because the "morality" of your god is the sick and twisted musings of ignorant arrogant men. Men much like you unfortunately. Indeed I find you among the worst of those I have encountered online.

If there really were chariots found on the bottom of the Red sea they would have been recovered and analysed in the finest detail. Your accept rubbish like this only because you desperately want to believe it.

And you want to believe it because, having spent your whole life in preparation for the reward of eternal life, you are terrified it might all be a myth. This is why you keep reassuring yourself by posting about it here.

Lets see,,,the killing of Egyptians for slavery of the Hebrew people. By the way,,, By his own hand, the Pharaoh brought that judgement on himself and his country. He was the one who said FIRST, to his generals, go out and kill all the first born of the Hebrews. Let me ask you why our people down under killed all of those Aborigines (to almost extinction) for no reason except they were maybe just black?????? I know you were not part of that and I am not mentioning it to make you look bad or anything. However, It is a part of History.

The rest of your post is pure jiberish. The studies were done, those were chariots and a bunch of them. so far around 400+ have been counted... I guess the Pharaoh did not like these models and just threw them into the sea and started over. Oh, yeah,,,I guess he also threw the horses and men with them,,,, About 5000 skeletons have been counted. Oh, and King David erected columns on both sides of the sea, to commemorate Mose's crossing. They are still there.

Face it,,, everyday brings another piece of evidence that proves the Bible. As God himself stated and I paraphrase, All things are hidden until the latter days.
and we are in the latter days.

As for as God asking Abraham to kill his son; God let man kill his only son for your sins in the same area this story of Abram took place Yet, mysteriously there appeared a Ram while an angel told Abram not to harm the boy. The area is now known as Jerusalem, the very place Jesus Christ dragged that cross to Calvery to Die for you and me.


Have a Great day.....

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

Telling me I'm wrong does not make it so, no matter how desperately you wish otherwise.

No, your right.... everybody has the free will to worship or NOT who they please. Zeus, Hercules,,,etc. oh and ALA the MOON God.

And again just because you do not believe does not make it NOT true either.

So we are at a stale mate and only have the Bible for guidance. Since I can prove the Bible scientifically and otherwise, it makes sense that the one who wrote it through 44+ different authors is REAL.
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Blade

 

[Galaxiom]

So the event is not true but the numbers of people is?

Any reasoned analysis shows the whole story is a myth. For the purposes of discussion one considers the entire plausibility as a whole.

Water does not have to be deep to drown you if the current is strong.

The maximum Red Sea tides are less than a metre. The average depth is about 500 metres with a central trench over 2000 metres deep. Even the Gulf of Suez is up to seventy metres deep.

The extensive shelves in the sea are covered with coral. Ever tried to walk on a coral reef? Even if it were drained it would be a very difficult crossing.

 

[Galaxiom]

God then instructed him and indeed probably give Moses directions to have the Hebrews wonder for forty years (actually 38years) until all of that generation had passed.

38 years wouldn't kill off a generation when people regularly lived to several hundred years old (according to the Bible).

 

[Frothingslosh]

No, your right.... everybody has the free will to worship or NOT who they please. Zeus, Hercules,,,etc. oh and ALA the MOON God.

And again just because you do not believe does not make it NOT true either.

So we are at a stale mate and only have the Bible for guidance. Since I can prove the Bible scientifically and otherwise, it makes sense that the one who wrote it through 44+ different authors is REAL.
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Blade

Please explain, then, how Islam magically conjured up the same history as Christianity and Judaism, reveres the same prophets, considers Muslims to be the descendants of the same Abraham as Jews and Christians do, worship the same god (remember - "Allah" is not a name any more than its literal translation - "God" - is), and, in fact, directs its adherents to keep to the laws put forth in the Bible, the Torah, and other Abrahamic holy texts, save for where they are contradicted by the Qu'ran?

You see, all sorts of evidence is there, just waiting to be learned, that Islam is and always has been an Abrahamic religion revering the same god as Judaism and Christianity. The only issue here is that your racist ass refuses to accept that because it just burns your ass that brown people might worship the same god as you; that they might just be people after all, and you can't accept that.

 

[Bladerunner]

38 years wouldn't kill off a generation when people regularly lived to several hundred years old (according to the Bible).

Oh me....I think you need to read Numbers 14

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+14&version=KJV

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

Please explain, then, how Islam magically conjured up the same history as Christianity and Judaism, reveres the same prophets, considers Muslims to be the descendants of the same Abraham as Jews and Christians do, worship the same god (remember - "Allah" is not a name any more than its literal translation - "God" - is), and, in fact, directs its adherents to keep to the laws put forth in the Bible, the Torah, and other Abrahamic holy texts, save for where they are contradicted by the Qu'ran?

You see, all sorts of evidence is there, just waiting to be learned, that Islam is and always has been an Abrahamic religion revering the same god as Judaism and Christianity. The only issue here is that your racist ass refuses to accept that because it just burns your ass that brown people might worship the same god as you; that they might just be people after all, and you can't accept that.

The Koran was written by a false prophet 600 AD years after the death of Jesus Christ.. All books of the Bible had been written by then and put into the Hebrew or Greek (Septuagint). Actually it did not become of age until much later in history.

If you want to believe it is the true God, that does not surprise me.... When you convert you will become a Muslim regardless of you national heritage. Like in France, you and others keep yammuring about these are home grown terrorist...Yes, they are homegrown but they convert to Islam thereby have become a Muslim and a Islamic terrorist. What do you want to bet their neighborhood was one of those 75 areas the French police would not go before all of the terror in France started.

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

Please explain, then, how Islam magically conjured up the same history as Christianity and Judaism, reveres the same prophets, considers Muslims to be the descendants of the same Abraham as Jews and Christians do, worship the same god (remember - "Allah" is not a name any more than its literal translation - "God" - is), and, in fact, directs its adherents to keep to the laws put forth in the Bible, the Torah, and other Abrahamic holy texts, save for where they are contradicted by the Qu'ran?

You see, all sorts of evidence is there, just waiting to be learned, that Islam is and always has been an Abrahamic religion revering the same god as Judaism and Christianity. The only issue here is that your racist ass refuses to accept that because it just burns your ass that brown people might worship the same god as you; that they might just be people after all, and you can't accept that.

There are those Muslims that are Christians (Coptic Christians for one group) and I welcome them. (Never really thought about their brown skin...HMMMMMMM) Yet,,,they are dying horrible deaths at the hands of their own people because of their faith in Jesus Christ.

Blade

 

[AccessBlaster]

What about the guy who shot up the women's clinic in Colorado, was he a home grown Christian terrorist?

 

[Steve R.]

There are those Muslims that are Christians (Coptic Christians for one group) and I welcome them. (Never really thought about their brown skin...HMMMMMMM)

My apologies, I don't really want to step-in, but your are confusing ethnicity with religion. An ethnic group does not have to adhere to just one religion. The Coptics are Christians, most of whom are probably Egyptian. The Coptic Church is one of the original Christian Churches.

Unfortunately, the Islamic jihadists overran the Middle East offering only "convert or die". It would appear that many of Egyptians chose the "convert" option. The Arab-Muslim conquest of Egypt. The persecution of the Coptic Christians continues today. Wikipedia: Persecution of Copts.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Blade, please tell me again how Islam is not Abrahamic given that one of the tribes of Israel - I believe the sons of Hamm? - went off to become the people who eventually became Muslims.

As to saying that Islam's Quran was written a full 600 years after Christ's death ... If you want to be realistic about it, the "official Bible" wasn't written until 400 years after that same date - the Council of Nicea?. That's a good 10 generations (maybe more depending on exactly how you count them) after the Crucifixion. Long enough that there were no witnesses left to be able to say with any certainty which books and which translations were correct.

 

[Frothingslosh]

Well, if you're a Bible literalist, then 400 years is more like half a generation. But only for generations before detailed record-keeping. Record-keeping has apparently cost us 80% to 90% of our lifespan, dontchaknow.

 

[Bladerunner]

What about the guy who shot up the women's clinic in Colorado, was he a home grown Christian terrorist?

I did not hear whether he was a Christian or not... If the left has anything to do with it,,,he will be up there with Bill Graham. Personally, I think he was a nut case.. They had had problems before....

This is a running problem here in the US is that they pick up the person, take him to jail and the Judges let them out while SOME of them require a little more scrutiny.

It is funny how you liberals go straight for the throat every time...Blame it on Christians. It is OK,,,,we will get the last laugh.

Blade

 

[Alc]

Blame it on Christians. It is OK,,,,we will get the last laugh.

Yes, many people misquote that "turn the other cheek" comment. Far more likely that jesus, if he had existed, would have said that he'd have the last laugh.

 

[Bladerunner]

Blade, please tell me again how Islam is not Abrahamic given that one of the tribes of Israel - I believe the sons of Hamm? - went off to become the people who eventually became Muslims.

As to saying that Islam's Quran was written a full 600 years after Christ's death ... If you want to be realistic about it, the "official Bible" wasn't written until 400 years after that same date - the Council of Nicea?. That's a good 10 generations (maybe more depending on exactly how you count them) after the Crucifixion. Long enough that there were no witnesses left to be able to say with any certainty which books and which translations were correct.

I am not really sure what you are trying to say.. the Codex Vaticanus
in the Vatican was written around the 4 century.. The books of the NT was written around 75 AD.... the Septuagint was written(translated) from Hebrew scriptures 285--246 BC..Of course the KJV was first printed around the 1600s.

As far as the Council of Nicea, are you talking about the 'canon law, or the writing of the church about Christianity (i.e. The City of God),,,

Sorry you lost me there.

Have a good evening...

.........

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

Blade, please tell me again how Islam is not Abrahamic given that one of the tribes of Israel - I believe the sons of Hamm? - went off to become the people who eventually became Muslims..

In the Bible Ham (youngest son of Noah) was known as the father of Canaan, Egypt as the Land of Ham. Out of Ham, 30 nations arose all of which are spoken of in the OT. Don't believe Islam was around then....How they evolved was up to Man. Muhammad started preaching Islam around 610 AD to the Arabic countries around the Middle East. It is written history from there.

Have a nice day,,,getting soaked with rain here.

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

My apologies, I don't really want to step-in, but your are confusing ethnicity with religion. An ethnic group does not have to adhere to just one religion. The Coptics are Christians, most of whom are probably Egyptian. The Coptic Church is one of the original Christian Churches.

Unfortunately, the Islamic jihadists overran the Middle East offering only "convert or die". It would appear that many of Egyptians chose the "convert" option. The Arab-Muslim conquest of Egypt. The persecution of the Coptic Christians continues today. Wikipedia: Persecution of Copts.

Thanks Steve.....it does get confusing at times.

Have a Blessed day

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

Well, if you're a Bible literalist, then 400 years is more like half a generation. But only for generations before detailed record-keeping. Record-keeping has apparently cost us 80% to 90% of our lifespan, dontchaknow.

for heavens sake,,,where did you come up with that notion.

Blade

 

[AccessBlaster]

It is funny how you liberals go straight for the throat every time...Blame it on Christians. It is OK,,,,we will get the last laugh.

Blade

I am not blaming anyone just asking a simple question. If this guy turns out to be a Christian, shooting people in the name of God. Will you condemn him as a terrorist?