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[MrsGorilla]

I think it's Josey

Are you sure? I was thinking more along the lines of nobody nowhere or lushy. Now that brings back memories. Too bad such treasures were lost in the forum hack.

 

[nomorehype]

I did. Nowhere did I see 8MPG listed. However, you're the one who posted the comment. It is on you to post sources to back up your argument.

Sigh... Okay, try this Hummer
Nope, its not 8, its 9.6mpg. I cant be bothered to actually sit and input it all into Excel, but I'd be willing to bet that if we added together the average consumption of all vehicles for sale in the US, and all vehicles for sale in the UK, the result would be 50% worse economy for the yank tanks.

 

[MrsGorilla]

Sigh... Okay, try this Hummer
Nope, its not 8, its 9.6mpg. I cant be bothered to actually sit and input it all into Excel, but I'd be willing to bet that if we added together the average consumption of all vehicles for sale in the US, and all vehicles for sale in the UK, the result would be 50% worse economy for the yank tanks.

You're right, I edited my original message a few minutes ago to reflect that. However, as stated above, Hummers aren't all that popular because they are so darn expensive. Only rich yuppies who don't care about gas prices/mileage will be seen driving those.

 

[nomorehype]

You're right, I edited my original message a few minutes ago to reflect that. However, as stated above, Hummers aren't all that popular because they are so darn expensive. Only rich yuppies who don't care about gas prices/mileage will be seen driving those.

And the Chevy Suburban? Or Ford Expedition?

 

[MrsGorilla]

And the Chevy Suburban? Or Ford Expedition?

I thought those were large enough to be classified as trucks and not SUV's.

 

[Kraj]

Cindy, seriously. I commend your efforts, but this guy is not worth your time. If you feel like taking a pot shot at him, have fun. But he hasn't said a single thing since arriving on this forums to indicate he is a reasonable person worth discussing anything with. He just wants to pick fights and then whine when someone punches him. Normally I'm all about shutting idiots up for the sake of the people who might be influenced by them, but I can't imagine anyone is reading his spew and thinking he makes a bit of sense. I mean, even people who generally agree with him like Colin have got to be shaking their heads at him.

Rich is 10 times more interesting and 100 times more charming than this dweeb.

 

[ShaneMan]

Cindy, seriously. I commend your efforts, but this guy is not worth your time. If you feel like taking a pot shot at him, have fun. But he hasn't said a single thing since arriving on this forums to indicate he is a reasonable person worth discussing anything with. He just wants to pick fights and then whine when someone punches him. Normally I'm all about shutting idiots up for the sake of the people who might be influenced by them, but I can't imagine anyone is reading his spew and thinking he makes a bit of sense. I mean, even people who generally agree with him like Colin have got to be shaking their heads at him.

Rich is 10 times more interesting and 100 times more charming than this dweeb.

Agreed, Kraj

Calling Americans "a$$holes" and his quote here:

Pre-emptive retaliation? Hmmmm, okay. But since warmonger Bush has his fanatical sights set on just about everywhere, is it okay if the rest of the world forms an alliance and takes you out first?
Just gimme the bit of paper, I'll sign up now

My Dad use to tell me, when I was growing up, "anyone can be tough on the phone and in a car." This was before computers so I guess he would need to add, "and behind a keyboard."

 

[Rich]

My Dad use to tell me, when I was growing up, "anyone can be tough on the phone and in a car."

Or when stood behind a gun or when dropping bombs from 30,000 feet or when the brain is missing aka GWB

 

[Rich]

(ok now we have the democrates for that),

What are democrates ?

 

[ColinEssex]

I mean, even people who generally agree with him like Colin have got to be shaking their heads at him.

Can I just say I distance myself from his comments - I never call people names and wouldn't in any way say Greg has a "tiny" mind. I agree with Cindy's comments about Greg.

I am shaking my head - stirring things up or having a little pop at Dan / Ken / Matt et al, is one thing, but being personally insulting isn't my (nor Rich's) style.

Col

 

[Rich]

Kraj is one of the more intelligent and reasonable posters on this forum. He is always willing to back up his arguments with sources, and he tries to stay level headed, in spite of insults being slung at him.

Just like Colin and me then

 

[Brianwarnock]

Just a quick visit before getting back to working on my tan

I often wonder if people who complain about the size of American cars have ever visited the states, I wouldn't want to drive my little hatch on some of their out of city roads , nor would the engine take the high mileages needed to cover the country, I didn't notice too many large SUVs in the cities as a %, and there are loads over here mainly used for the school run.

Also when quoting MPG remember that the us gallon like their billion is smaller than ours.

the diff in price is almost if not entirely down to Tax as has been stated, by all means argue , but try to remain sensible.

Brian

 

[KenHigg]

...the us gallon like their billion is smaller than ours.

Brian

Our gallon and billion are different? I just thought you used liters instead of gallons And isn't a billion simply a thousand million everywhere?

1,000,000,000

 

[Brianwarnock]

Our gallon is 4.5 litres whereas yours I think is only 4 liters.

Our Billion was, when I was a lad , 1 million million ie 12 zeroes hence the bi from the Latin for 2

Brian

 

[Bodisathva]

Our gallon is 4.5 litres whereas yours I think is only 4 liters.

Our Billion was, when I was a lad , 1 million million ie 12 zeroes hence the bi from the Latin for 2

actually, 1 US gallons = 3.7854118 liters, but the US vs UK gallon and the billion thing I was not aware of...hmmm...learn something new everyday. I knew there was a reason I hang around this place

Thanks, Brian

 

[Matt Greatorex]

You do have a spleen..?

Okay, this is one of the most imaginative insults I've heard in a long while.
What a bizarre thing to ask!

My God, what you miss by going home, eh?

OH, and illegally-invading terrorists, don't think so, we have the NUKES so WE set the rules, and we say, piss off.

Fair point, well made, sir.
Now, back...slowly...away...from...the...button.

So does everybody else nowadays and guess what they say to you, UP YOURS

Another well-reasoned argument. Congratulations on that one.

What are democrates ?

Where you store democrats, for shipping purposes?

 

[nomorehype]

I thought those were large enough to be classified as trucks and not SUV's.

Afternoon! Well I see my friends have been busy during my overnight absence . Ah well... I dont understand this distinction between a 'truck' and an 'SUV'. I mean, genuinely, what does it matter what group you put it in - compact, sub-compact, SUV, truck, bleedin' leviathan, it still comes down to this:
The average vehicle in the US used for domestic purposes gets a significantly lower mpg than its equivalent vehicle in the UK, or Europe generally. This policy of high consumption simply because it can be afforded at the pump* is the symbol of excess that leads to even moderate people thinking that the US doesnt give a monkeys about nations other than themselves, or the future when either all the oil runs out or when the new iceage comes along tomorrow, whichever arrives first.
The less-visible costs, including lives lost in conflicts, seem at least to be gaining a little exposure - witness the bumper stickers talking about how buying an SUV is putting dollars in terrorist pockets.

 

[nomorehype]

Cindy, seriously. I commend your efforts, but this guy is not worth your time. If you feel like taking a pot shot at him, have fun. But he hasn't said a single thing since arriving on this forums to indicate he is a reasonable person worth discussing anything with. He just wants to pick fights and then whine when someone punches him. Normally I'm all about shutting idiots up for the sake of the people who might be influenced by them, but I can't imagine anyone is reading his spew and thinking he makes a bit of sense. I mean, even people who generally agree with him like Colin have got to be shaking their heads at him.

Rich is 10 times more interesting and 100 times more charming than this dweeb.

Awww, and I thought you cared
Now Kraj, if you choose to find my comments and/or mannerisms unworthy of your response, hey thats your choice. But do try not influence others who may be enlightened, eh? I dont make any sense? Sorry, you consider US policy in Afghanistan, the Kyoto treaty and the lack of an American signature, Guantanamo Bay and its contravention of Geneva Convention, etc etc to be all irrelevant? You might not like the style, buddy, but Im afraid the topics themselves are harder to debase

 

[nomorehype]

My Dad use to tell me, when I was growing up, "anyone can be tough on the phone and in a car." This was before computers so I guess he would need to add, "and behind a keyboard."

I genuinely believe that America with its current policies is A Bad Thing(tm) for the rest of the world, and if there ever was a formal conflict between them and Europe I would most certainly sign up. What precisely is wrong with admitting that?

 

[nomorehype]

Where you store democrats, for shipping purposes?

I thought democrates was Socrates half-brother?