TRUMP and Project 2025

[Mike Krailo]

My #2 grandson was, in fact, an accident - but he is a beloved accident.

Thank God for that. I'm glad you have the joy to enjoy that new person in your family to the fullest.

Sorry, Pat... my response was to Mike Krallo's #11 post that included a statement about abortion being in contention. Should have made it a formal reply instead of an informal one.

If a state makes laws that says it's so, than it is the law. There is no sugar coating it. If a state says it's legal for a mother to abort, than that is the law in that state. The people have spoken in both cases. Choose your state.

 

[Thales750]

unnecessary personal attack. Why don't you justify your apparent position of "Abortion any time" because a fetus is not human and so has no rights since you think that my moderate position is "ultra far right".

@The_Doc_Man So, is Thales750 saying that my moderate position on abortion is "a relentless attack and continuous denial of anything except the ultra far right." Name-calling and "doesn't become him" Please be consistent in your judgments of others.
consulting you.

How is it name calling, when I simply described your typical behavior. It's not a personal attack.
You are the most relentless True-Believer I have ever had a conversation with. Ever.

You should take that a s a compliment, and appreciate how astute my observations are.

 

[Isaac]

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!! Please reread the 1st Amendment and point out the exceptions for me since I cannot find any.

Even pornography is not inherently harmful or even dangerous. We do our best to protect our children from things they are too young to understand but beyond that, no adult has the right to choose what another adult as access to. You want to see "pornography" right out in plain sight, go to any bookstore or library and read a little of a "romance" novel. Some of it comes close to crossing the line between soft and hard core.

Hate speech is another story. It is emphasized by confirmation bias (look this up if you don't understand the concept and how dangerous it is). "Everybody hates Trump" so I'll do the world a favor and kill him. He is Hitler. Someone should have killed Hitler and saved millions of lives. This is how social media and Google (both inherently evil but no one is talking about stopping them) controls your feeds to give you more of what you "like". I have trained one of my feeds to give me nothing but articles about home decorating When I first discovered this problem about 20 years ago, to prove it to a friend, I trained a news feed to give me only articles about the British Royal Family.

But despite the evil brought into this world by Google and social media companies manipulating how you think, I would still not ban them. I would insist that the filtering criteria be made public and force them to allow you to change the filtering if you didn't like theirs.

Just knowing that you are being manipulated goes a long way toward mitigating the damage. You can force yourself to read other opinions even if the only way to do it is to find reliable conservative posters like Dennis Prager and Dave Rubin. Dennis has always been conservative and he is incredibly wise but Dave joined our ranks when he saw just how downright crazy and evil the progressives had made the Democrat party.

so you think if someone yelled "fire" in a crowded theater in the days of the founding fathers, they would have just smiled and said, "Ahh. Free speech at work", satisified with themselves as they watched the crowd stampede?

 

[Isaac]

Like the ones that protect our enviroment and make our houses safer?

Do you mean the ones that have financially ruined ranchers because a 2-inch stream of water (wetland) crossed their land, and make houses where I live cost $650k?
No, I wasn't referring to those.
Or Yes, I was - at about 1/4th the rate of what they have become, which according to the Democrats, is just "always more regulation"

 

[AccessBlaster]

Do you mean the ones that have financially ruined ranchers because a 2-inch stream of water (wetland) crossed their land, and make houses where I live cost $650k?
No, I wasn't referring to those.
Or Yes, I was - at about 1/4th the rate of what they have become, which according to the Democrats, is just "always more regulation"

@Isaac you're dealing with people who think cows are the problem. world.

 

[Thales750]

Do you mean the ones that have financially ruined ranchers because a 2-inch stream of water (wetland) crossed their land, and make houses where I live cost $650k?
No, I wasn't referring to those.
Or Yes, I was - at about 1/4th the rate of what they have become, which according to the Democrats, is just "always more regulation"

My career was in Home building and writing databases. I wrote databases for a wide variety of applications from building a document manger for the TSA to a Drug Rehab, construction project management, and an ERP for a Chemical Plant.
I've mention the Chemical Plants a few times, one, it literally transends 99.9% of database developer's capabilities, (so it feeds my ego). Second, I have a strong understanding of how regulations work, both from Construction and Oil and Gas.
In no way do regulations stifle these industries, and these are among the most regulated in the country.

Construction, in many ways, has the opposite of economy of scale, at least for the first several tipping points in growth. In super large construction projects the successful bidder has to have very deep pockets, so even if they are not as efficient, they still get the contracts.

Chemical Plants regulations have so little to do with the viability of the entity. A billion dollar a year plant might spend a million, maybe two on regulations administration, And capital improvements that include lower emissions and safer work environments are combined with energy savings and increased productivity, so they balance out.

The problem of agreeing with, and repeating, the talking points of over regulation is who they protect, and who pays for them. American, European, and Asian plants pump out huge profits in spite of all these regulations. Homebuilders, the same thing.

American home builders are not really effected by building codes, they are much more affected by interest rates and labor rates.

In both cases, regulations, which are primarily paid for by share holders, have little effect on everyday Americans, other than to make them safer.

 

[Thales750]

and make houses where I live cost $650k?

Very little to do with building codes, and much more to do with the successful California business environment. Austin when the same way, now people are leaving.
Demand made your homes expensive.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

So, is Thales750 saying that my moderate position on abortion is "a relentless attack and continuous denial of anything except the ultra far right." Name-calling and "doesn't become him" Please be consistent in your judgments of others.

I was trying to be a more moderate "immoderate moderator" by not calling him several unkind names. I am actually using some self-control to avoid using language at a level of ferocity that I feel might be warranted. Don't want to break Jon's brand new installation less than a month after he installed it, after all.

 

[Isaac]

successful California business environment

Now that's one I've never heard before.
I'm in AZ fyi

 

[Thales750]

Now that's one I've never heard before.
I'm in AZ fyi

That is exactly why people were moving to Austin. The supper high California pay checks led to super high real estate prices. Now Austin home prices are set to decline.
Texas has always had several advantages, most of which have nothing to do with our ideology.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

more to do with the successful California business environment

Would that be the environment that is causing many fast-food restaurants to close because they can't afford to pay the exorbitant minimum wage in that area?

 

[Thales750]

Would that be the environment that is causing many fast-food restaurants to close because they can't afford to pay the exorbitant minimum wage in that area?

The problem with fast food wage increases is systemic across the country. As we abandoned industrial jobs, we replaced them with entry level jobs. They don't provide living wages due to insufficient productivity. Forcing that has contributed to this inflatioary period. Not to worry though, they are being eliminated soon enough.
Within 5 years no new fastfood resturaunts will have employees. You'll see the rollout happening soon. It will sweep the country faster than the linier thinkers can blink their disbelief.
Most all of the old ways people cling to are coming to an end faster then they can imagine. Conservatives are going to be hit hardest, because their belief in pure capitalism is going to be proven wrong. Just like all those med addicted rust belt guys from the 90s. Project 2025 is merely another mechanism is this transition to a new human paradigm. I've known this was coming since I read I Robot in 1974.
What did the Borg Queen say?
Watch your futures end.
Interstate trucking
Assembly
Inexpensive housing
Farming and ranching
Doctors
Trash removal
House cleaning and laundry
Garment manufacturing
And then the rest.
There are already automation processes to end those jobs. That's not even counting the jobs that pure ai is coming for.
So cling to those old way, the tailors did, the coach builders did. It's done.
The whole world will be on substanance checks from taxes on profits, or there will be a massive die off of the human race.

 

[Thales750]

Now that's one I've never heard before.

Probably because it doesn't fit your world view. California has the 5th largest economy in the world

 

[AccessBlaster]

The problem with fast food wage increases is systemic across the country. As we abandoned industrial jobs, we replaced them with entry level jobs. They don't provide living wages due to insufficient productivity. Forcing that has contributed to this inflatioary period. Not to worry though, they are being eliminated soon enough.
Within 5 years no new fastfood resturaunts will have employees. You'll see the rollout happening soon. It will sweep the country faster than the linier thinkers

Duh, these are transitory jobs commonly utilized by highschoolers or college kids. These were never meant to provide a living wage for adults.
Silly liberals wreck everything they touch including fast food.

 

[ColinEssex]

Silly liberals wreck everything they touch including fast food.

Oh I don't know. I'm quite partial to a McChicken Sandwich and medium fries with a tomato sauce dip.
Col

 

[Thales750]

Duh, these are transitory jobs commonly utilized by highschoolers or college kids. These were never meant to provide a living wage for adults.
Silly liberals wreck everything they touch including fast food.

Yeah, except this has nothing to do with Liberals. it's the Conservative mantra of winner-take-all is the root of all of our economic woes. Starting with Regan taking credit for ending inflation, when in reality Carter actually started that ball rolling.

You may have been doing some tongue in cheek, I get that.

 

[Thales750]

Oh I don't know. I'm quite partial to a McChicken Sandwich and medium fries with a tomato sauce dip.
Col

Ketchup?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Conservatives are going to be hit hardest, because their belief in pure capitalism is going to be proven wrong.

Abraham Maslow might disagree with your beliefs. And shall we consider how many countries that started out as pure communism or pure socialism have allowed capitalism to creep in? Shall we consider how ineptitude and corruption have poisoned so many nations who desperately cling to their social beliefs? China right now is undergoing a crisis of declining population, an overstretched economy, and an infrastructure disaster. The latter is caused by roads and buildings plagued by corruption, using substandard materials that lead to collapses of bridges and dams. That corruption in a supposedly "pure" communist state is an individual responding to GREED. It hasn't been pushed away. That drive to "get what you can while the getting is good" is rearing it's ugly (to you) head in the heart of China.

While I don't agree with the movie quote from Gordon Gecko that "greed is a good thing" I can tell you that it is an evolutionary MANDATE that we gather as much as we can to assure our survival. Your belief that capitalism is wrong will not stand the test of time because it goes against hundreds of millennia of evolution.

Should we regulate capitalism? Probably - such as limiting monopolistic actions and limiting opportunistic price gouging for two things that are a bit egregious. But did you realize that 80% of all capitalist ventures fail within 5 years of starting? Even with that track record, people continue to try to carve out their own little piece of the pie. Why would they do that, knowing the odds are against them? (That was rhetorical.) They do it because, except for the lazy do-nothing-and-never-did-anything low-lifes that are supported by misguided socialism, there is a human drive to succeed. You can try to thwart that, but it is a human drive that you can never prevent, never fully throttle, never eradicate. It is inborn.

I'm sorry that you cannot see this.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Yeah, except this has nothing to do with Liberals. it's the Conservative mantra of winner-take-all is the root of all of our economic woes. Starting with Regan taking credit for ending inflation, when in reality Carter actually started that ball rolling.

You may have been doing some tongue in cheek, I get that.

Like you Gavin Newsom is confused about how the economy works. Everyone saw this train wreck coming except you and Gavin.

Liberals will look to this and see a great victory for the working class. They will copy it in every state as you predict.

This is the liberal model, make things worse while blaming someone else, i.e. Trump

 

[Isaac]

That is exactly why people were moving to Austin. The supper high California pay checks led to super high real estate prices. Now Austin home prices are set to decline.
Texas has always had several advantages, most of which have nothing to do with our ideology.

OH, I thought you meant something else.

Yeah, that's why the californians are moving to phoenix, too, except now they've risen so much here too