How the AI apocolypse starts (2 Viewers)

[Isaac]

I suspect some AI engines are deep fakes piloted by monkeys riding on greyhound dogs

that's probably true, as there are imposters in every game. I just stick with the first thing that worked for me - chatGPT. I highly value its memory that transcends individual chats and I tend to keep doing what works, learning new things very slowly - meaning learning one new thing well, but not learning many new things

 

[BlueSpruce]

that's probably true, as there are imposters in every game. I just stick with the first thing that worked for me - chatGPT. I highly value its memory that transcends individual chats and I tend to keep doing what works, learning new things very slowly - meaning learning one new thing well, but not learning many new things

Good for you, i've also been tinkering with GPT. It did a really good job of generating that normalized db schema from @DakotaRidge's dashboard.. BTW, whatever happened to IoT (The Internet of Things)? Wasn't that supposed to really take off before AI?.. I really dont see many IoT devices other than smart bulbs and A/C thermostats. Microsoft even created an embedded Windows IoT OS and it's nowhere to be found. I thought IoT was supposed to be part of the big AI scheme? Devices talking to each other and controlled by AI.

 

[Isaac]

AI to me is just a glorified search tool that gathers relevant info from the web and formats it into pretty answers

That was about all I thought chatGPT was at first - and maybe indeed it was lesser in its early iterations when it was first released.
Since then I've revised my opinion of AI, since in the interim I've had more specific uses for it and it can be pretty impressive in remembering things and relaying relevant information based on what it remembers. I have it even formatting my sql with incredibly specific instructions, it never forgets

 

[AccessBlaster]

Are we training AI, or is AI training us?

 

[BlueSpruce]

... just in case they make layoff decisions on who is or isn't embracing AI. Well that and plus it's helpful

AI was built to work for us. Now it’s working instead of us. Every day many workers are packing their desks into cardboard boxes, not because they weren't prodcutive, or broke a rule. They were laid off because AI can do the same job faster and cheaper. People are not just getting laid off, they’re being told they're replaceable. Perhaps I should build a robot and have him get an AI job somewhere. If he can't find work, I'll tell him to go rob a bank and bring back the money.

 

[KitaYama]

AI was built to work for us. Now it’s working instead of us.

Who told this? And why do you think Ai was built to work for us, not replacing us?
My understanding is that AI was designed and made simply to replace human. Am I wrong?
Here's a part of my research (several months ago)

The Original Proposal: Dartmouth Conference (1956)
Source: Dartmouth Summer Research Project on Artificial Intelligence Proposal
Authors: John McCarthy, Marvin Minsky, Nathaniel Rochester, Claude Shannon

“Every aspect of learning or any other feature of intelligence can in principle be so precisely described that a machine can be made to simulate it. An attempt will be made to find how to make machines use language, form abstractions and concepts, solve kinds of problems now reserved for humans, and improve themselves.”

Marvin Minsky (AI pioneer) – on human replacement
Source: Society of Mind (1986), and interviews

The human brain is just a computer that happens to be made out of meat.
We’re not trying to build intelligent computers to be smart for their own sake. We want machines that do what humans do — but better.

OpenAI Mission Statements
Source: OpenAI Charter (2018)

We commit to use any influence we have over AGI to ensure it is used for the benefit of all, and to avoid enabling uses of AI or AGI that harm people or unduly concentrate power. We expect AI technologies to have broad societal impact, so we are committed to providing public goods that help society navigate the path to AGI. Our mission is to ensure that AGI—by which we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work—benefits all of humanity.

Elon Musk (Co-founder of OpenAI)
World Government Summit, 2017

There will come a point where no job is needed — you can have a job if you want one, for personal satisfaction, but AI will be able to do everything.

 

[KitaYama]

Every day many workers are packing their desks into cardboard boxes, not because they weren't prodcutive, or broke a rule.

Why are you afraid of jobs being lost? With every evolution in technology, there were a dozen jobs that vanished. Do you regret that?

Switchboard Operator Replaced by Automated telephone switching systems (1980s)
Film Projectionist (in small theaters) Replaced by: Digital projectors and automation (2000s–2010s)
Toll Booth Operator Replaced by: Electronic toll collection (ETC), e.g., E-ZPass, ETC (2010s)
Video Store Clerk Replaced by: Streaming services (Netflix, YouTube, etc.)
File Clerk / Archivist (manual) Replaced by: Digital databases and document scanning (1990s)
Bank Teller Reduced by: ATMs, online banking, mobile apps (2000s)
Door-to-Door Encyclopedia Salesperson Replaced by: Wikipedia, Google, and eBooks (1990s)
Photo Developer / Lab Technician Replaced by: Digital cameras, smartphones (2010s)
Mail Sorter Replaced by: Optical character recognition (OCR) and automation (1990s)
( I can give a hundred more if you wish)

Jobs come and get vanished. It's a part of our evolution. Why are you afraid of it?

Edit: And for your info, Computers were black females that were hired to calculate very hard and sophisticated math problems in NASA when US was in a war with Russia for owning the space.
Later IBM made a machine to replace computers and do their job faster. It was called computer after those ladies. (watch Hidden Figures)

 

[BlueSpruce]

Why are you afraid of jobs being lost? With every evolution in technology, there were a dozen jobs that vanished. Do you regret that?

Switchboard Operator Replaced by Automated telephone switching systems (1980s)
Film Projectionist (in small theaters) Replaced by: Digital projectors and automation (2000s–2010s)
Toll Booth Operator Replaced by: Electronic toll collection (ETC), e.g., E-ZPass, ETC (2010s)
Video Store Clerk Replaced by: Streaming services (Netflix, YouTube, etc.)
File Clerk / Archivist (manual) Replaced by: Digital databases and document scanning (1990s)
Bank Teller Reduced by: ATMs, online banking, mobile apps (2000s)
Door-to-Door Encyclopedia Salesperson Replaced by: Wikipedia, Google, and eBooks (1990s)
Photo Developer / Lab Technician Replaced by: Digital cameras, smartphones (2010s)
Mail Sorter Replaced by: Optical character recognition (OCR) and automation (1990s)
( I can give a hundred more if you wish)

Jobs come and get vanished. It's a part of our evolution. Why are you afraid of it?

So if no humans work, where are they going to get money to buy anything? Or are countries going to subsidize everything, like a comunist system? Working also gives people purpose. People rule and we should destroy anything that threatens to replace us.

 

[KitaYama]

So if no humans work, where are they going to get money to buy anything? Or are countries going to subsidize everything, like a comunist system? Working also gives people purpose. People rule and we should destroy anything that threatens to replace us.

I'm not a fortune teller nor a prophet to know how the future works. But according to human history, I proved that every year a lot of jobs are vanishing because of the improvement in technology. There were lamplighters to light candles in street lamps. With the invention of electricity, that job is gone and instead new jobs for managing generators etc are needed.
So your fear about loosing jobs was strange to me.

I can't tell you what happens if what Elon Musk said comes true and all jobs vanishes. But if at present, working gives you life purpose, in future something else may do the same.

And apparently you don't know how a communist system works if you think China and Russia subsidizing everything for their people.

 

[Jon]

Some believe the cost of everything will plummet, with AI and robots doing all the productivity. We will be on a universal income and with everything so inexpensive, we can have everything we want, including eternal life. Well, that is the vision. AI solves work, death, politics etc.

Technology has always led to people needing to retrain into other work. However, this time it is different. The pace of this revolution is astonishingly fast and you cannot retrain into other work at which AI and robots are already better, faster, cheaper. The cognitive jobs go first, and then the manual work. They are finiding robots a little harder than AI. Having said that, AI will solve robotics and the progress in robotics over the last couple of years has been outstanding.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Why are you afraid of jobs being lost?

I think some jobs are a form of slavery... I became even more sure when I discovered that the education system was designed to educate a working class ..

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Marvin Minsky

Re:- Marvin Minsky (AI pioneer) – on human replacementSource: Society of Mind (1986), and interviews
The human brain is just a computer that happens to be made out of meat.

In a recent interview the head of NVIDIA Jensen Huang said that it appears everything in nature is computable and that it also applies to the human brain.. (or something similar) hence everything can be can be simulated on a computer even a human brain...

 

[moke123]

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/28/ai-jobs-white-collar-unemployment-anthropic

Dario Amodei — CEO of Anthropic, one of the world's most powerful creators of artificial intelligence — has a blunt, scary warning for the U.S. government and all of us:

• AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white-collar jobs — and spike unemployment to 10-20% in the next one to five years, Amodei told us in an interview from his San Francisco office.
• Amodei said AI companies and government need to stop "sugar-coating" what's coming: the possible mass elimination of jobs across technology, finance, law, consulting and other white-collar professions, especially entry-level gigs.

 

[BlueSpruce]

I think some jobs are a form of slavery... I became even more sure when I discovered that the education system was designed to educate a working class ..

Agreed, and going to school early mornings is meant to train you to consistently show up on time to work.

 

[BlueSpruce]

Some believe the cost of everything will plummet, with AI and robots doing all the productivity. We will be on a universal income and with everything so inexpensive, we can have everything we want, including eternal life. Well, that is the vision. AI solves work, death, politics etc.

Reality is no one wants to lower prices, rather keep increasing them and keep firing humans, and there's no plans for universal income. We are being annihilated because the world is over populated.

 

[GPGeorge]

Agreed, and going to school early mornings is meant to train you to consistently show up on time to work.

Perhaps I'm missing something, being a senior citizen and all, but isn't showing up on time generally a good idea for pretty much anything we do as humans?

 

[moke123]

Perhaps I'm missing something, being a senior citizen and all, but isn't showing up on time generally a good idea for pretty much anything we do as humans?

I was kind of planning on being really late to my funeral

 

[BlueSpruce]

Perhaps I'm missing something, being a senior citizen and all, but isn't showing up on time generally a good idea for pretty much anything we do as humans?

Yes, but the primary purpose for arriving at school on time is to train you to consistently arrive on time for work. But thanks to AI, no one will have a job to show up for.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

I was kind of planning on being really late to my funeral

choose a time and date and I'm sure we can arrange something...