How the AI apocolypse starts

I agree with bits of both of you - I DO think AI as-is is too risky to scale very well. that's an excellent summary way of saying it.
But it will get through its period of over-hype and settle into something pretty seriously relevant, just as the cloud did.
I do think it will hit more of a 'ceiling' than people think. Regulatory, compliance, legal, IP law, safety, security will all come in to limit its use to only those who know what they are doing, which kinda brings us back to the beginning in a sense.

But it's undoubtedly useful for productivity. I just asked it how to identify any stored procedure in a particular schema containing a particular text. Now I could've figured that out and written it on my own, maybe in 5-20 minutes. But with ChatGPT I did it in 20 seconds.
AI has caused several major negative impacts, like Bank of America erroneously cancelling thousands of cardholders accounts, data breaches, making wrong investment decisions, etc. BofA had to pay millions in fines. AI is just not ready for prime time. It's still a toy and businesses are over relying on it, firing many employees because they're eager to cut costs.
 
In the meantime, I want to be all like 'oh yeah, I'm using AI all the time and it's helping me', just in case they make layoff decisions on who is or isn't embracing AI. Well that and plus it's helpful
 
In the meantime, I want to be all like 'oh yeah, I'm using AI all the time and it's helping me', just in case they make layoff decisions on who is or isn't embracing AI. Well that and plus it's helpful
AI to me is just a glorified search tool that gathers relevant info from the web and formats it into pretty answers. It can't be totally relied on for making autonomous decisions if it hallucinates once in a while 🙃
 
In the meantime, I want to be all like 'oh yeah, I'm using AI all the time and it's helping me', just in case they make layoff decisions on who is or isn't embracing AI. Well that and plus it's helpful
I think you're ahead of the game, because you have the fundamentals of programming while utilizing the tool known as AI. That's a killer combo.
 
AI to me is just a glorified search tool that gathers relevant info from the web and formats it into pretty answers. It can't be totally relied on for making autonomous decisions if it hallucinates once in a while 🙃
Yeah, at first I thought ChatGPT's answer was wrong, as I got zero results but I knew I had some. Then I realized the SYS tables were tied to a database, not a server (like idiot me, I should have known that right!?) - so sometimes it's a matter of giving it context
 
If I was still in the game, I'd be looking for new solutions to old nagging problems. Utilizing endless prompting to achieve my goals.
 
If I was still in the game, I'd be looking for new solutions to old nagging problems. Utilizing endless prompting to achieve my goals.
I feel so far behind some times that I'm not even coherent enough to organize old, current, new - people are using so many cloud solutions and even good ole' sql server has so many new options (or options that aren't really new, but new to me), I feel sometimes like a strong imposter syndrome. Then I talk to my son, who feels the same way despite a MS in robotics engineering but because they only 'scratched the surface' of many things he feels the same feeling - it's a real problem in IT, some of these job descriptions are outlandish in scope and you wonder "Are they really going to find a person who knows all those things in detail?"

I don't even know Grouping Sets in sql , some people use it like it's going out of style. My problem is there are so many new things I could learn IF I had an example project to use them on. But time flies and work flies and you sometimes feel like there isn't enough dough in the recipe to learn the new stuff. My new company is all about AWS, Snowflake, Kafka. Thankfully I work in the "company that was bought", which is still 100% sql server based, so there is plenty of work to do, but I always get this nagging feeling I better learn as much new as I can or at least be a Successful Pretender lol
 
I feel so far behind some times that I'm not even coherent enough to organize old, current, new - people are using so many cloud solutions and even good ole' sql server has so many new options (or options that aren't really new, but new to me), I feel sometimes like a strong imposter syndrome. Then I talk to my son, who feels the same way despite a MS in robotics engineering but because they only 'scratched the surface' of many things he feels the same feeling - it's a real problem in IT, some of these job descriptions are outlandish in scope and you wonder "Are they really going to find a person who knows all those things in detail?"

I don't even know Grouping Sets in sql , some people use it like it's going out of style. My problem is there are so many new things I could learn IF I had an example project to use them on. But time flies and work flies and you sometimes feel like there isn't enough dough in the recipe to learn the new stuff. My new company is all about AWS, Snowflake, Kafka. Thankfully I work in the "company that was bought", which is still 100% sql server based, so there is plenty of work to do, but I always get this nagging feeling I better learn as much new as I can or at least be a Successful Pretender lol
Sounds to me like you have a great foundation but your confidence has been shaken a bit. Build on what you have and try and stay positive.
 
AI to me is just a glorified search tool that gathers relevant info from the web and formats it into pretty answers. It can't be totally relied on for making autonomous decisions if it hallucinates once in a while 🙃
At some point, one of you has to assume the role of "adult in the room". If you defer to AI to fill that role, yeah, you lose.
 
This whole AI thing is overhyped. It's just a toy for now and too risky to scale. It will fade once the novelty wears off, just like the cloud did. What's the next fad going to be?

At some point, one of you has to assume the role of "adult in the room". If you defer to AI to fill that role, yeah, you lose.
Isn't the whole idea that children will learn so they don't commit the same mistakes again?
 
Isn't the whole idea that children will learn so they don't commit the same mistakes again?
True. And the reason we put teachers in charge of classes in school is that SOMEONE has to be the adult in the teaching/learning process.

In parallel to that, parents are the adults in a family relationship.
 
True. And the reason we put teachers in charge of classes in school is that SOMEONE has to be the adult in the teaching/learning process.

In parallel to that, parents are the adults in a family relationship.
So for AI, that learning process is either too slow, or they're stubborn because they're committing the same mistakes. Remember that AI is a machine based wizard programmed by humans. If it encounters a slightly different set of circumstances, it's not going to leverage what it previously learned. I suspect some AI engines are deep fakes piloted by monkeys riding on greyhound dogs 😂

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I suspect some AI engines are deep fakes piloted by monkeys riding on greyhound dogs
that's probably true, as there are imposters in every game. I just stick with the first thing that worked for me - chatGPT. I highly value its memory that transcends individual chats and I tend to keep doing what works, learning new things very slowly - meaning learning one new thing well, but not learning many new things
 
that's probably true, as there are imposters in every game. I just stick with the first thing that worked for me - chatGPT. I highly value its memory that transcends individual chats and I tend to keep doing what works, learning new things very slowly - meaning learning one new thing well, but not learning many new things
Good for you, i've also been tinkering with GPT. It did a really good job of generating that normalized db schema from @DakotaRidge's dashboard.. BTW, whatever happened to IoT (The Internet of Things)? Wasn't that supposed to really take off before AI?.. I really dont see many IoT devices other than smart bulbs and A/C thermostats. Microsoft even created an embedded Windows IoT OS and it's nowhere to be found. I thought IoT was supposed to be part of the big AI scheme? Devices talking to each other and controlled by AI.
 
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AI to me is just a glorified search tool that gathers relevant info from the web and formats it into pretty answers
That was about all I thought chatGPT was at first - and maybe indeed it was lesser in its early iterations when it was first released.
Since then I've revised my opinion of AI, since in the interim I've had more specific uses for it and it can be pretty impressive in remembering things and relaying relevant information based on what it remembers. I have it even formatting my sql with incredibly specific instructions, it never forgets
 
... just in case they make layoff decisions on who is or isn't embracing AI. Well that and plus it's helpful
AI was built to work for us. Now it’s working instead of us. Every day many workers are packing their desks into cardboard boxes, not because they weren't prodcutive, or broke a rule. They were laid off because AI can do the same job faster and cheaper. People are not just getting laid off, they’re being told they're replaceable. Perhaps I should build a robot and have him get an AI job somewhere. If he can't find work, I'll tell him to go rob a bank and bring back the money.
 
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AI was built to work for us. Now it’s working instead of us.
Who told this? And why do you think Ai was built to work for us, not replacing us?
My understanding is that AI was designed and made simply to replace human. Am I wrong?
Here's a part of my research (several months ago)

The Original Proposal: Dartmouth Conference (1956)
Source: Dartmouth Summer Research Project on Artificial Intelligence Proposal
Authors: John McCarthy, Marvin Minsky, Nathaniel Rochester, Claude Shannon
“Every aspect of learning or any other feature of intelligence can in principle be so precisely described that a machine can be made to simulate it. An attempt will be made to find how to make machines use language, form abstractions and concepts, solve kinds of problems now reserved for humans, and improve themselves.”

Marvin Minsky (AI pioneer) – on human replacement
Source: Society of Mind (1986), and interviews
The human brain is just a computer that happens to be made out of meat.
We’re not trying to build intelligent computers to be smart for their own sake. We want machines that do what humans do — but better.

OpenAI Mission Statements
Source: OpenAI Charter (2018)
We commit to use any influence we have over AGI to ensure it is used for the benefit of all, and to avoid enabling uses of AI or AGI that harm people or unduly concentrate power. We expect AI technologies to have broad societal impact, so we are committed to providing public goods that help society navigate the path to AGI. Our mission is to ensure that AGI—by which we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work—benefits all of humanity.

Elon Musk (Co-founder of OpenAI)
World Government Summit, 2017
There will come a point where no job is needed — you can have a job if you want one, for personal satisfaction, but AI will be able to do everything.
 

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