UK Online Safety Laws - I, and therefore the site, are at risk

Not quite sure why you're being such a drama merchant.

Just behave on the boards like a half-way decent human being and everyone will be fine.

If you step over wherever the arbitrary line is, the mods will take care of it.

It's annoying, but them's the cards that have been dealt.
So what exactly is the "arbitrary line", and what is done with moderators who do not set a good example for others? I'm not being a drama merchant nor misbehaving. On the contrary, I am providing suggestions on how AWF can stay out of trouble without going overboard on curbing freedom of speech. When UA folded, I found it real easy to join AWF, and all it's content is searchable on the web.
 
I think anyone who thinks Israel should give back Gaza, Samaria, and Judea should explain why the US should not return Puerto Rico, California, Arizona, New Mexico to Mexico, Guam to Japan, and several islands in the Caribbean to GB who all lost wars to us. Apparently only if you are Israel are you required to give back the spoils of war. Even then Gaza, Samaria, and Judea would not be "free" since they were formerly stolen by Egypt and Jordan:) They would never go to the "Palestinians".

Personally, I am in favor of returning California:)
You see? There you go again. You just can't help yourself and let go of it! I thought we were not going to further discuss the Israel/Palestinian issue, especially in this thread. I can't believe you being a moderator are perpetuating that debate here and now, after I stated about 20 posts prior to that thread being frozen that I said everything I wanted to say, stand by my opinions, and bailed out, but you seem to thrive on continuing the chaos. You should tender your resignation as moderator. I move for a vote of no confidence in you as a moderator, and that you be removed from that position.
 
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Personally, I am in favor of returning California

I'm not sure that the original owners would want it unless the current tenants cleaned it up a bit.
 
If you step over wherever the arbitrary line is, the mods will take care of it.
I would think there are several affirmative defenses to any violations of the OSA. One really important one would be that a moderator staff is in place and proactive. The biggest problem with that defense is that it is often the moderators deeply involved in the potentially offensive threads.
 
As far as I can see we have very good moderators who are conscientious (and proactive) but the site does have one problem: the mix of UK and US members and the misunderstandings possibly engendered. A relatively trivial example was when Pat got hot under the collar about the use of the word 'dear', which totally and utterly baffled UK users. This was not anything that would have fallen foul of the new law, but shows the potential for problems. Mods just please go on doing you best and I'm sure we'll be OK.
 
Funny, those threads are only offensive to people who want to censor speech. Guess you're not a first amendment kinda guy.

Some of them live where the 1st amendment has no legal standing because of different legal context. This IS, after all, not a USA forum. We have members from Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, South America, and North America. That's from six of the seven continents. (If we actually DO have an Antarctic member, can you please identify yourself?) We have Christians, Muslims, Jews, and Atheists. I am not sure whether we have Buddhists or Shinto members. I don't recognize anyone who follows Santeria or other Caribbean religions and I'm not enough familiar with African religions to list them. But "1st Amendment" references only confuse most of those folks because they are not in a position to know what it means.

Think ecumenical, Pat! You're on the World stage now.
 
We use the word "dear" loosely also. And we even do use to insult the target. You failed to understand the context in which it was used. Colin was not even remotely being nice.
Explains my point exactly - to me his usage in the case in point had no hint of nastiness (I went back and reread it). We remain at misunderstanding each other. Granted his post was not necessarily pleasant but the use of 'dear' wasn't special.

To quote Winston Churchill - 'two countries divided by a common language'. And I'm absolutely sure we'll have non meetings of minds again.
 
Some of them live where the 1st amendment has no legal standing because of different legal context. This IS, after all, not a USA forum.
The UK started a dangerous precedent in the "free world". I can anticipate many countries creating thought police machines.
 
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Guess you have to evaluate everything in terms of whether Jon might end up bankrupt now.
If we can't control it, I will close down all the non-Access areas. And I will also be noting the actions of those posters who do not have consideration for my own legal risk. For those who do not care, they are not my friend.
 
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Given the context, "dear" was intended as an insult. So, we will have to agree to disagree.
I am from the UK. "Dear"can be used as a patronising insult. It is context dependent, and between foes it is highly likely to be considered an insult, whilst hiding behind deniable plausibility. Only the poster can be 100% sure of the intent behind the word.

How do you avoid the insult? Don't engage, despite provocation.
 
I have just received an adsense policy violation warning from Google today regarding this page:


Consequently, I have to delete all potentially offending posts on that page. If adsense goes, the site closes.
 
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Consequently, I have to delete all potentially offending posts on that page. If adsense goes, the site closes.
When I was a teenager I remember seeing signs in several eateries and pubs that said "No political or religious discussions allowed in this establishment". There was and still is a good reason for it. Sooner or later those discussions escalate into insults and fights. So for those reasons, I am all in favor of you closing all non-technical forums. This way you eliminate the risks and stress associated with having to constantly monitor the threads and the moderators.
 
So, you've taken up the position of being the thought police. I

Pat, Google's AdSense is the thought police. Jon merely got the notice and has to act in self-defense.

While there are parts of the Bible I don't consider useful, there are parts that give really great advice. Like...

Matt. 7:3-5 - "Why do you look at the speck of dust in your brother's eye, but fail to notice the log in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is a log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first remove the log from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

Sometimes, the "let things be" pillow is the proper place for some arguments.

The worst part of this is that so often, you are right - but continued escalation ruins the argument and leads to marginal language that eventually triggers AdSense.
 
Much of the Watercooler content is straight up TruthSocial material. Access users shouldn't really have to deal with that kind of conversation when they're trying to find answers. Meanwhile, Watercooler-only users would fit right in on platforms like TruthSocial or Twitter/X. There's probably a reason that forum was created, but it clearly serves no purpose anymore. Jon should probably shut down that subforum or geoblock it entirely.
 
Much of the Watercooler content is straight up TruthSocial material. Access users shouldn't really have to deal with that kind of conversation when they're trying to find answers. Meanwhile, Watercooler-only users would fit right in on platforms like TruthSocial or Twitter/X. There's probably a reason that forum was created, but it clearly serves no purpose anymore. Jon should probably shut down that subforum or geoblock it entirely.
I monitor Watched Forums only which does not include any non-Access forum. I checked out Watercooler but it was toxic.
 
Come to think of it, The Watercooler seems to be a contention board, and that toxicity has clearly taken its toll.
 
I monitor Watched Forums only which does not include any non-Access forum. I checked out Watercooler but it was toxic.
Are you aware of the facility to hide all the forum sections you are not interest in? I'm asking because some members don't know about that feature. The plugin for that was kindly donated by a forum member who wishes to stay anonymous.
 
Are you aware of the facility to hide all the forum sections you are not interest in? I'm asking because some members don't know about that feature. The plugin for that was kindly donated by a forum member who wishes to stay anonymous.
Thanks, Jon. I wasn’t aware but I’m good with the “Watched Forums”.
 
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