A Special Thanks to all vets

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To all of my buddies and vets, thinking of you

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1968-1971 Khe Sanh Vietnam
 
Memorial Day
 
Do you do the 11th Hour of the 11th Day of the 11th Month too?
 
How many military and civilians have to be killed to warrant a memorial day?

Is there one for Iraq? with 3,467 US military deaths and 60,000+ Iraqi civilians dead since USA invaded in 2003 - or don't civilians count. I see 116 US soldiers killed in May, almost highest total yet for a month. ref

Actually, I thought this thread was about vets (animal doctors) from the title:rolleyes:

Col
 
Colin
11/11/07 is remebrance day
orginal for the Great War (First )
however it is now used as remembrance for all Armed forces in all conflicts since the WW1 it is a focus mainly for the armed services - and as you point out not really for the casualties of war

this is a mainly European/commonwealth day of rememberance

Stateside have their own way of honouring their dead - just as valid - just different

There is a new statue up in town that commorates (typo) Women during the WW2.

but as to the victims .. I am not sure

g
 
First American killed in WW2 - William Fiske -- have a read up on him - acutally quite interesting
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First American killed in WW2 - William Fiske -- have a read up on him - acutally quite interesting
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How odd that he chose to want to fight in the RAF and lied to get in. I guess being a Yank, a killing machine like a Hurricane fighter was appealing.:rolleyes:

Col
 
Colin
11/11/07 is remebrance day
orginal for the Great War (First )
however it is now used as remembrance for all Armed forces in all conflicts since the WW1 it is a focus mainly for the armed services - and as you point out not really for the casualties of war

this is a mainly European/commonwealth day of rememberance
I did know that Gary

I was asking about the USA memorial days - is there one for Iraq yet, if not, what is the death threshold that warrants this wallow in nostalgia.

Col
 
You need to read more about him, to understand what he was about

he formed an opion of the UK that he liked and was prepared to stand up and be counted - I have read a in depth review of him from the Battle of Britian soc .

and this paints a different picture , he was an adventure and worldly in his views having toured around europe and taken part in the winter olympics - this meeting of others and socailising with the English -had an impact.

I don't think he was gun ho .. he might of been aiming to be with the upper class (who were mainly the first pilots) but I don't think it was a thirst for blood that made him join

There were a small band of americans who joined the UK at the outbreak of war 1939 many for different reasons and against the wishes of the state department they all had to lie and pretend to be canadian - Fiske was just the first to die - others fought side by side with the canadians and the brits as well as other commonwealth soldiers
 
I was asking about the USA memorial days - is there one for Iraq yet, if not, what is the death threshold that warrants this wallow in nostalgia.
As far as I know, the original intent of memorial day was to remember those who were in WWII, but it has become a day of rememberance for all those who gave their lives in service to the country.
 
I did know that Gary

I was asking about the USA memorial days - is there one for Iraq yet, if not, what is the death threshold that warrants this wallow in nostalgia.

Col

- it won't be until they have made a film about it along the lines of Rambo
then they will give it a day-

also it has to be after they have won


a bit like vietam
US won , but I would not call this a win
However not to throw water over the soliders who did serve there , do they remember the enemy soldiers in the memorial day

as 11/11 is acutal for all soliders (both sides)
not just the winning side, this day orginal was in the hope that this would never happen again - humans are pretty stupid, war is not the solution, but if 1 side is intend on doing something the otherside disagrees with then conflit will arise

you cannot turn the other cheek on everything otherwise Hilter would have world domination,

gbp
 
Yes a Gold medal for bobsleigh is no mean feat (even in 1928). I wouldn't go down a sheet ice run on little more than a tea tray with sides.

You do have to wonder about people that want to fight a war their own country isn't involved in. It's a bit like saying I'll go and fight someone elses war because we haven't got one of our own - it satisfies a need. Like mercenaries who do it for the money.

Obviously anyone in the USA wanting to fight a war these days has a range to choose from thanks to the current warmonger president dictator.

Col
 
As far as I know, the original intent of memorial day was to remember those who were in WWII, but it has become a day of rememberance for all those who gave their lives in service to the country.

I got the impression from the original poster that this was just a Vietnam day wallow. I misinterpreted it

Col
 
Guys
If it looks as if I am having a pop at any of the Armed forces, then this is not so - the polictics that placed the armed forces yes , but not the soliders themselves (ex army myself).

Colin
sometimes if the cause is just (or you think it is, thne you have to act on it) as these lunatics going to fight in Iraq who are european/british - they feel the cause is just , they are misguided (stupid would be another word)

In vietam there were also Brits fighting for the Yanks, they believed in that cause. were they misguide or fighting against the Communist , We rit don't really get upset by the communist, but some of the yanks start to foam at the mouth just at the thought of this -

The idea of communisum (typo) that everyone get equal treatment and privalleges sounds good - but reality kicks in would we all get porches no - we would all end up with robin reliants
most people can see this and also the corruption that is associated with this (not to say that there is no corruption with any other system) its just that communisim ethos means everyone get equal - where as capitialism is greed focused work hard reap the rewards ,
 
You do have to wonder about people that want to fight a war their own country isn't involved in. It's a bit like saying I'll go and fight someone elses war because we haven't got one of our own - it satisfies a need. Like mercenaries who do it for the money.
Or a bit like saying "this is a cause I feel strongly enough about that I'm willing to fight for it, regardless of my country's political stance"

I always thought it was quite a noble gesture, but then again, I'm not as negative as some:rolleyes:
 
Or a bit like saying "this is a cause I feel strongly enough about that I'm willing to fight for it, regardless of my country's political stance"

I always thought it was quite a noble gesture, but then again, I'm not as negative as some:rolleyes:

Spot on better than I tried to state.

g
 
a bit like vietam
US won ,

Thats what the USA believes, the US pulled out because they couldn't win. Same in Iraq, but the US hasn't recognised it yet. GWB invaded for oil and nothing else. The US will pull out in due course and leave a warzone behind where there wasn't one before they invaded.

Bod said:
Or a bit like saying "this is a cause I feel strongly enough about that I'm willing to fight for it, regardless of my country's political stance"

I always thought it was quite a noble gesture, but then again, I'm not as negative as some

There is absolutely no need to get involved in someone elses problems (unless you get very well paid for it) - the sooner the USA realises that the better off we'll all be.

Col
 

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