British weird weather - Global Warming?

[scott-atkinson]

Whilst they may not get the predictions correct all of the time no one can deny that the seasons haven't changed in my short lifetime, all the concensus is (except for Americans) is that the rapid increase global warming in such a short space of time is man made

So whats the solution then mate, Martian or Moon colonies?

Talking of Martians, hey perhaps Mars was once like the Earth, and Global Warming wrecked it.....is that our future

 

[Rich]

So whats the solution then mate, Martian or Moon colonies?

Change of lifestyle, it'll happen when the planet runs out of natural resources anyway

 

[GaryPanic]

bloody hell you really are going for it ....
let us know how it goes -

g

 

[Rich]

I guess being the shizzle is a good thing

Anyway getting our personal ethanol generator "on line" this week will be an additional step towards some independence...

Where's the ethanol come from?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

With regard to electric cars...

LOTS of battery research is required. See, batteries wear out and a high-tech, rechargeable battery that doesn't polarize (remember it's last high-charge point and never go past that point again) is VERY expensive.

We had a big furor over a recently released hybrid that was a fuel cell that charged a batter for electric motors. The cost of running the thing was phenomenal - until it was time to replace the battery, and that was fully 50% of the price of the car.

Not to mention that the high-tech batteries are incredibly toxic to our environment once they reach the point of needing replacement. So while it is probably the way to go, we are a LOT farther away from the end of that road than anyone would care to consider.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Oh, so true. Here in South Louisiana we have grain storage facilities along the river where farmers bring their crop for eventual loading on barges. Every so often they clean out the silos and let the effluent go into the river.

One year, my wife and I went on a riverboat cruise to see the Christmas bonfires along the river levees. It is an old tradition and very picturesque. (The bonfires light the way for Papa Noel to find the children on Christmas Eve, or so the old Cajun tradition goes.)

Anyway, on this cruise we passed by several grain elevators. As we approached, we could smell the fermented grain. And we could hear the ducks in the river around the base of the loading facilities. I've heard N'Awlins bars (pubs) full of people that were quieter than these drunken ducks. They were getting fat and happy off that cast-off grain and they had LOTS of friends doing the same thing. I would guess as many as a couple of hundred ducks were "belly up to the bar" at that point.

 

[GaryPanic]

50-2-1

you amaze me, I knew where the stuff came from , but that you are acutally doing it - fantastic , for the Brits on the forum , its a bit like the Good life ( a comdey soap from the 80's) with Fielicty Kenndal in it - (vote rear of the year for ages)

 

[GaryPanic]

god - how many typos in that last post

 

[Jakboi]

I'll agree that the warming trend is cyclic, has happened before, will happen again, and there's nothing we can do to stop it... but I also think that the depth and severity of the cycle is being increased by our CO2 emissions.

Agreed. How can anyone know what has happened in the past? We have what maybe 200 years of written weather history...I mean that is a drop in the bucket.

Its a cycle of the Earth from periods of cooling to periods of heating. How can anyone think the weather would stay the same forever? Everything changes...including weather patterns.

 

[Rich]

Everything changes...including weather patterns.

Not as quickly as they are at present they haven't

 

[Sizemore5000]

Fifty2One,
I'm moving in the next few months to TN. My wife and I are pursuing a more 'agricultural' style of life, and are researching methods and technologys to unplug from the grid, and become independant of the supplies of the cities. We'll still be on city water, and for a while, still consume city electricity. We'll have need for petrol products, but you've inspired me to look more into producing my own.

Coming to point: do you have a blog or a website I could reference? You seem quite versed in self-sufficiency already, and I prefer to learn from folks that actually have firsthand knowledge of the subject matter.

 

[GaryPanic]

there are plenty of site out there giving tips- but as you say first hand knowledge beats all

 

[scott-atkinson]

Did anyone see that Top Gear special last night.

Wicked,

They went to the North Pole, by car, the first people to actually drive all the way to the pole.

Jeremy Clarksons last poignant words of the show, " People say that man and the car is causing global warming and reducing the ice caps, we,ve just driven a car to the north pole, the inconvenient truth is that we haven,t even scratched the surface."

It was a great show and highlighted the harshness of this frozen wilderness.

JC rocks.

 

[GaryPanic]

Yeah i saw this - JC came accros as a bit of a dick - shouting at a tent and having a tantrum - i know James May (Captain Slow) can drive you mad- but JM was right , but JC tantrums made him looked a right idiot , as for hamster hammond - would of been good to see him finish - that took a lot of guts and inner strength

g

 

[scott-atkinson]

Yeah i saw this - JC came accros as a bit of a dick - shouting at a tent and having a tantrum - i know James May (Captain Slow) can drive you mad- but JM was right , but JC tantrums made him looked a right idiot , as for hamster hammond - would of been good to see him finish - that took a lot of guts and inner strength

g

Yeah I think hammond got the raw deal, although it is a life experience one that you only do once.

I did crack up though when they were cruising across the ice plains in the car sipping G&T's.

Great TV, and of course it did highlight that really the ice caps are still there, they are not melting at any alarming rate that climaters would have us believe.

Again cracking TV.

 

[Brianwarnock]

, and of course it did highlight that really the ice caps are still there, they are not melting at any alarming rate that climaters would have us believe.

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I don't know how you can draw that inference from the show

I enjoyed it as a comedy show, which is what all JC's shows are, but how he and JM can consider that they won the race when they had to be rescued by the backup crew twice only shows how shallow he is.

Brian

 

[Brianwarnock]

, and of course it did highlight that really the ice caps are still there, they are not melting at any alarming rate that climaters would have us believe.

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I don't know how you can draw that inference from the show

I enjoyed it as a comedy show, which is what all JC's shows are, but how he and JM can consider that they won the race when they had to be rescued by the backup crew twice only shows how shallow he is.

Brian

 

[scott-atkinson]

I don't know how you can draw that inference from the show


Brian

Did you mean to post that twice to put your point across

 

[scott-atkinson]

I enjoyed it as a comedy show, which is what all JC's shows are, but how he and JM can consider that they won the race when they had to be rescued by the backup crew twice only shows how shallow he is.

Brian

I agree, Hammond was the real winner and the star of the show for his sheer endurement of the harsh conditions.

 

[scott-atkinson]

I don't know how you can draw that inference from the show


Brian

Global Warming scientists are constantly saying how the ice caps are reducing in size and volume due to Pollution from man.

What I drew from the show is that they managed to drive a 3 tonne vehicle across the ice sheets without too much effort....yes I know they had to be rescued on several occasions, but only once was due to ice volume and the vehicle breaking the ice, the rest of the time was due to snow drifts.

I do believe it is just convenient for these scientists to say what they do, because us mere mortals have no way of dis-proving them, I think this show turned that around some what.

And I believe that that was in JC's mind when he took on the challenge.

I say well done JC, another myth exposed