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BTW I pay for life insurance also, I don't expect the government to bury my sorry ass.
Get creamated. Then you can have that hot body you always wanted.
 

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Then they can kick what's left over in the ash hole.
 

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Yes, for $500.00 bucks the family gets the rest!
Another option.
We don't bury bodies. We burn them.
You can come here. If your family don't pay for your body to be burnt, The city you live in have to. It'll be free of charge.
Note 1: In this case No Ceremony while being burnt.
Note 2: Your family can receive the remaining ash and bone for an extra 2000 yen.

PS: $1 = 120 Yen (almost)
 

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Señor Adam
What do you think happens in a coffin?
 

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Señor Adam
SENOR? cen or? senior? how did I get this name anyway? from the banging latinos comment from the oldest member here? I thought my official title was FORUM TROLL?
 

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Si Señor, it's from your membership in that porn site.
Not that I'm knocking porn. It just seems a little hypocritical given your obsession with religeon. Does the Pastor at Parkview know about this?
 

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I think I will just be happy to continue paying $50 for a 2-4 of beer.
If you don't get that, then I'm saying our health care coverage comes from taxation. Anyone who says Canadians have free health care doesn't know how it really works.
Exactly. Governments cannot give anyone anything unless it is taken from someone else.
 

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hmmmm.....interesting. I don't remember registering on that site. must have been a hacking effort. and parkview is not a catholic parish.
 

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A couple of years ago my dad and his wife went to visit their home in Nevis (west indies). The second week, Inez fell (she has Parkinson's) and broke her hip. The hospital in Nevis couldn't do the surgery she needed. Luckily they had purchased trip insurance so they got to fly back to Orlando (their city of departure) in a private jet with a doctor and a nurse. The cost of the flight was $21,000 and the trip insurance paid all of it. She recovered and was back to her normal self so they went back the following year. Yep, she fell again and broke the other hip. This time the insurance carrier was different and the rules were different. This carrier didn't have contracts with any companies with jets small enough to land in Nevis so they had to take her in an ambulance on the ferry to St. Kitts to a bigger airport. The rate for the flight was $26,000 and the company only paid $15,000 of it. My brother called the old medical flight company and they could do the job for the same rate as the previous year as well as pick her up in Nevis to avoid the boat trip but the insurance company refused to allow it. Then they asked my brother to give them $11,000 up front before they would authorize the flight. It was awful. Inez is in her late 80's and my dad was 91 at the time and both were in tears. It was horrendous for them. My brother was trying to organize everything from Orlando. He eventually convinced the insurance company that they needed to front the money and because of all the delay, he then had to convince the airport in St. Kitts to stay open for an extra hour because the plain couldn't get there until 10:30. My little brother can be very persuasive. The moral of this story - check the fine print.

Here's the scary part. Keith didn't tell me about the incident until they were on the flight coming home but all day long, I kept having this feeling that I needed to go to Nevis for something so I went looking for my passport and found it had expired the previous week so I went right down to the Post Office and sent it off to be renewed. I guess with three people I love sending "Nevis" vibes, I got the message.
 

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I should also mention that I spent a year in Kuwait developing a Human Resources system for their Civil Service. Kuwait has "free" medical coverage for everyone, even foreigners. I could go into a pharmacy and tell them what I wanted and they would just give it to me. Didn't matter if I would have needed a prescription in the US. Once I found that out, my mother could stop sending my asthma medication every month since I could get it in country. My daughter cut her foot one time when we were wading in the gulf near our house so we were off to the emergency room for stitches. The line was at least 40 people long so my husband and I found the end and prepared for an all day wait. A few minutes later, a young man speaking broken English came up to us and insisted we come to the head of the line. We tried to tell him we were OK with waiting but he wouldn't take no for an answer so we went right in. I don't know if it was the blood dripping from her foot or the fact that we were Americans got us the special treatment but I was grateful for it. Inside the clinic was not impressively clean the way they are here and my daughter had trouble with her foot until we got home. She's not a complainer or we would have had it fixed there but the doctor did not remove all the glass. This is of course why Kuwaiti's with means come to the US for any important medical care. You get what you pay for. There is no such thing as free.
 

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You get what you pay for. There is no such thing as free
True, but if you are a veteran or someone who fell between the cracks for whatever reason we should keep all of our safety nets in place. And improve them when possible. There are approx 85 million that fall into this category [USA].
 

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there is no such thing as free
oh yeah? the usa government gives away free money all the time. and the reason it's free is because it NEVER comes back in the form of taxes. not if you know your way around the system that is. I think you're missing the point @Pat Hartman . the point is that the government of the usa delays and delays the inevitable until a war is fought. then the reset button is hit. repeat, repeat, repeat....
 

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The more I read about insurance in US, the more it feels strange to me. I know somebody in States and she told me her insurance doesn't cover dental. I just thought, how is it possible at all......

A little about our insurance.
I work in a company and my monthly income is around US $4836. I pay $279 (monthly) for our insurance (me, my wife and my two sons).
If any of us needs any medication, the insurance company will pay %70 of the whole treatment. The bill that I receive and have to pay is the remaining %30.
This insurance will cover everything. CT scan, heart surgery, nerve transplant, flue, headache, car accident, anything. There is nothing as ....your insurance doesn't cover this......... here.

The good part is :
Although I have to pay %30 of any treatment, But there's a maximum limit. At the end of each year I can send the medical bills to tax organization. They calculate and if I have paid more than $744, They pay me back.

Note: This $744 is not the same for everyone. It's a calculated number based by our previous annual income. If someone has less income, he has to pay less. I'm a high rank employee and you can say most of other families have to pay less than me.

Another Note: Transport is free of charge. There's no fee for ambulance, helicopter etc.

Another Note: I work at two companies. I have to pay for insurance in the first one. There's no need to pay again according to my income in the second company.

Last Note: Insurance covers everything as long as it's a treatment. It means I can't use it just to do a plastic surgery on my nose for beauty reasons. If I have a medical problem with my nose and it needs a plastic surgery it's OK. The insurance covers it too. But only for beauty purpose, No I can't use it.

(I promise) Last Note: We don't need to pay more than $600 per treatment. It means if I need a surgery that costs $3000 and stay in the hospital for two weeks and need a lot of drugs and medicine and a lot more that may cost several thousands total, I pay only $600. The rest will be paid by insurance. Again this $600 is calculated based on my previous annual income and will differ for others.
 
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It means I can't use it just to do a plastic surgery on my nose for beauty reasons.
you have nothing to worry about. LOL. you certainly wouldn't want to be this guy:

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Tera,
All do respect you are comparing apples and oranges.

You realize your country is roughly the size of California? If our whole country was the size of California then yes we could do some really impressive things too.

I have mentioned this before we have a concept called states rights in our constitution, it prevents the united states from acting like a monolith. Each Governor gets to call their own shots.

Japan is about 26 times smaller than United States.
United States is approximately 9,833,517 sq km, while Japan is approximately 377,915 sq km, making Japan 3.84% the size of United States. Meanwhile, the population of United States is ~326.6 million people (200.2 million fewer people live in Japan).
 

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oh yeah? the usa government gives away free money all the time. and the reason it's free is because it NEVER comes back in the form of taxes.
Señor Adam:
So the government gives you $1200. What do you do with it? You spend it. You pay some sales tax.
The store you spent it in then pays their federal and state taxes. The stores employees also pay their state and federal taxes. The suppliers that supplied the store you shopped in and thier employees pay their taxes. All those employees also spend their after tax dollars which follows the same cycle.

So how is that not coming back in the form of taxes?
 

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Tera,
All do respect you are comparing apples and oranges.

You realize your country is roughly the size of California? If our whole country was the size of California then yes we could do some really impressive things too.

I have mentioned this before we have a concept called states rights in our constitution, it prevents the united states from acting like a monolith. Each Governor gets to call their own shots.
Well, I can't understand what you're trying to tell me. For sure we are a small country. But thinking economically, the annual budget or income of US is several hundred times more than us. You are the richest country in the world. What are you trying to tell me exactly?
 

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