Ebola in UK

[ColinEssex]

Bloody brilliant

Now some stupid volunteer worker has brought Ebola to the UK. If they insist on working in such stupid places they should stay there until job done, not start flying around the world possibly infecting people and spreading the disease.

It's total selfishness, with no thought for others.

Col

 

[Minty]

I'm not convinced that someone who volunteers to help in a potentially life threatening situation should be deemed selfish...

The chances of her already infecting anyone are very very small, as it doesn't become infectious until the more serious symptoms are already present, which as far as I can tell is not the case.

Even then you have to have bodily fluid interaction, (Blood sweat etc.) to get it passed on, it's not transmitted airborne.

 

[ColinEssex]

Even then you have to have bodily fluid interaction, (Blood sweat etc.) to get it passed on, it's not transmitted airborne.

True. But there is still a risk of it spreading out of Africa if people continue to go there then fly around the world.

If they go, they should stay. They can have a break from their work if they must, just stay there and avoid the possibility of making this a worldwide problem. Keep it in Africa, we don't want it.

Col

 

[John.Woody]

Very narrow minded. She has done a tour of duty to help save others. At the end of the tour she's entitled to come home and followed procedure laid down by the government. Now she's fighting for her life she should have our support and good wishes rather than a stupid self centred rant from you.

 

[Bladerunner]

did I hear them say that there were 34 deaths involved. Were these your countrymen or were the deaths simply in the UK. While one is bad the other is real bad.

Blade

 

[scott-atkinson]

I don't think there have been any deaths yet on UK soil of Ebola victims, lets hope we can keep it that way too...

 

[Frothingslosh]

Ah, yes, how DARE that selfish woman come home after exposing herself to the lepers! UNCLEAN! CAST HER OUT! I mean, hell, she's just going to spray Ebola all over the UK, leading to its eventual depopulation! Someone should just knife the inconsiderate bitch, right? After all, the transmission mechanism is completley unknown, and everyone knows that everyone within 500km of someone with Ebola will themselves catch Ebola and die!

It's a shame UK medical science is so incapable of handling a single case of Ebola. I mean, the US handled the same exact situation without falling to plague, and we all know how incompetent you consider the US.

 

[ColinEssex]

The NHS is grossly understaffed, patients wait hours in draughty corridors to be treated and often die there. Yet these people leave the struggling NHS to go and volunteer to treat these people who have Ebola, it's a question of priorities, our own people should come first.

The area where Ebola is should be sealed off to avoid spread - like in the film "Outbreak" with Dustbin Hoffman.

Another thing - where has the hundreds of billions of dollars / pounds gone that the "west" has donated to sort out starvation and disease in Africa?
All we saw on TV at Xmas was adverts begging for x amount per month to save anything from children starving to abandoned dogs in Africa.

There are thousands of doctors and nurses in Africa, let them sort it. If we had an outbreak, I'll bet no sod from Africa would volunteer to come and help. Would they hold a charity rock concert for us? Like Sir Bob has here?

Col

 

[MarkK]

don't feed the trolls

 

[ColinEssex]

don't feed the trolls

You'll ignore this I know but,

If someone deliberately posts comments that are designed to irritate and wind up others they are quite rightly called trolls.

If someone posts a personal opinion thought by them and let me add others, including similar in some newspapers, are they also trolls?

If so, then all posters in the WC especially in the stupid gun thread are trolls.

Col

 

[MarkK]

Ha, I trolled u, sucka.

Calling an ebola worker selfish is a baited hook; a troll. You are a troll. I suggest people should not feed u.

People, do not feed trolls. Begin to recognize them, and ignore them, or call them out for trolling.

Happy New Year

 

[Frothingslosh]

You know, Collin, you sound JUST like the right-wing reactionaries here, who also oppose sending aid abroad. Of course, they ALSO oppose spending money on aid INSIDE the US, whereas I have no idea of your stance on helping the poor in the UK. Regardless, raging that people dare to choose to go aid the people most in need rather than stay in the UK seems a truly petty thing to do. There will ALWAYS be people who need in the UK, and there will ALWAYS be far more people in far greater need in Africa - who are you to say that a given doctor should stay in the UK rather than go where they feel they can do the most good?

Seriously, you make it sound like the UK has a third-world health care system full of nothing but buildings full of plague victims and flies laying eggs in the corpses - the GOP in the US would love you. Perhaps you should start a charity to get donations to help with the widespread famine and plague in England.

Or perhaps the rest of the world should just quarantine the UK until all communicable diseases have been eliminated from the country, because any of them can be spread on to the civilized world!

 

[Frothingslosh]

No, Colin, you really are a troll - you might be bringing up points that are discussed elsewhere, but you're doing it in such a manner as to intentionally piss people off.

That said, I decided to carry on the conversation mainly because it's less painful than the task I'm doing at work from which I need to take breaks before my eyes cross permanently.

 

[Bladerunner]

Happy New Year to all.

Sounds like a mandatory 21day quarantine would fit the bill here along with Guards if necessary.

Blade

 

[Brianwarnock]

Frothringslosh is correct in that whilst col may raise valid points it is his manner which is at fault.

The screening process for the nurse was poor, she raised the issue that she was feverish even if her temperature was in the permitted range for flying. As for the quote below I want the risk to be zero not very low.

Brian

Ms Cafferkey's case has raised questions about the screening process in place for passengers leaving West Africa and arriving at Heathrow.

The chief medical officer for England, Dame Sally Davies, said Ms Cafferkey had been in the early phase of the disease when she made the journey back to the UK and her fellow passengers were at "very low risk" of being infected.

She told the BBC: "The public health risk is negligible - Ebola's very difficult to catch."

 

[Bladerunner]

Frothringslosh is correct in that whilst col may raise valid points it is his manner which is at fault.

The screening process for the nurse was poor, she raised the issue that she was feverish even if her temperature was in the permitted range for flying. As for the quote below I want the risk to be zero not very low.

Brian

Brian,,,,, the problem here is that when Ebola is caught, it carries with it 50-60% certain death unless you get the correct and immediate medical care.

 

[ColinEssex]

It's a shame UK medical science is so incapable of handling a single case of Ebola. I mean, the US handled the same exact situation without falling to plague, and we all know how incompetent you consider the US.

Perhaps you could indicate where I said the UK NHS is incapable of handling a single case of Ebola.

Also, if the USA is so superior, how did the cases diagnosed in the USA slip through the border checks?

Col

 

[AnthonyGerrard]

Frothringslosh is correct in that whilst col may raise valid points it is his manner which is at fault.

The screening process for the nurse was poor, she raised the issue that she was feverish even if her temperature was in the permitted range for flying. As for the quote below I want the risk to be zero not very low.

Brian

You can eliminate you risk - by not flying Brian. Anything else doesn't meet your standard of perfection.
Whats puzzles me is - that a nurse who has hands on experience of nursing ebola - felt she needed to flag herself up 7 times.

I wonder what the experience level was in those that dealt with her, and sent her on her way.

Hopefully she recovers.

Col perhaps you could volunteer for something in order not to resort to these trolls. I should - but never do - Take care buddy. The sos bus looked interesting on the TV.


http://www.bettertowncentre.co.uk/index.aspx?articleid=6727

 

[ColinEssex]

It's seems odd that I am called a troll, yet Frothy what's-his-name is allowed to say things that he or she thinks people say, which he or she does just to stir. Yet is not called a troll.

That's the democratic mods for you. One law for some . . .

Col

 

[spikepl]

Ebola is similar to nuclear power in that any (scratch that - ALL) common sense goes out the window, as aptly illustrated by OP.

If ebola was SOOO contagious, a number of African countries would have ceased to exist by now. Rumours of their demises still seem premature.