Fasting

[moke123]

Jesus Christ, isn't it politically incorrect to call a motorbike an 'Indian'? I'm shocked, upset and I'm going to protest and hold riots, and loot shops, throw rocks at police, smash up cars, commit arson, all in support of the poor dears maligned by this outrageous name.
Shouldn't it be called 'native american'? Or is it one of those 'it doesn't count' phrases.
Col

Dont know. Should Harley have a "Fat Boy"

 

[Dick7Access]

Dont know. Should Harley have a "Fat Boy"

Did you ever go to the races in Laconia, NH. We went often, but one time a couple got married driving to the outside alter on identical yellow Indian Scouts.

 

[moke123]

Jesus Christ, isn't it politically incorrect to call a motorbike an 'Indian'? I'm shocked, upset and I'm going to protest and hold riots, and loot shops, throw rocks at police, smash up cars, commit arson, all in support of the poor dears maligned by this outrageous name.
Shouldn't it be called 'native american'? Or is it one of those 'it doesn't count' phrases.
Col

BTW, Dont worry Colin. We'll Post your bail.

@Dick7Access - No luck, everytime we planned on going to bike week there was terrential rain. This years Americade got covided.

 

[Deleted member 147267]

Shouldn't it be called 'native american'?

Also, we must ban these from the automotive world:
Chevrolet Apache and Cheyenne
Dodge Dakota
Jeep Cherokee and Comanche
Nissan Qashqai
Pontiac brand
Volkswagen Touareg

and in aviation,
the Apache, Cheyenne, Commanche, Huron, Shawnee, Chinook, Sioux, Choctaw, Mohawk, Seminole, Iroquois...

Also, the Apache servers must be renamed, along with the Hiawatha and Cherokee servers (HTTP)

I'm just scratching the surface as there must be dozens of professional sports teams and hundreds of minor ones that have to go. Colin, maybe you should start an on-line petition?

 

[Jon]

Bravo Uncle! I have a few more tips for you. There is something called Choice Architecture. It is about engineering your environment to make the good behaviour easier to do than the bad one, so it becomes a default. An example would be having a fruit bowl and plate next to you by your chair while watching TV, or on the computer, rather than having it in say the kitchen. It makes it easier to do the healthy thing. Put the bad food, like crisps and chocolate stored in the garage, or inside a box with lots of books on top covered with a blanket. Make the bad behaviour take more effort to do. Another example would be putting your gym gear out the night before, with everything neatly laid out so when you get up, there is little effort to get going.

They do the same thing in supermarkets, to make you buy something extra right at the checkout.

It would be interesting if you posted here your weight when you measure it. That can hold you accountable! AWF, the new Weight Watchers!

 

[Jon]

@Uncle Gizmo, I'm seriously impressed! I know Boris has started a campaign in the UK to get people dieting, after finding that obese people are 3 times more likely to need a ventilator from Covid.

Maybe your eyeballs got fat and so reducing the bulging caused the new prescription. But your new fasting regime has given you skinny eyes!

 

[moke123]

I wonder, with all the fat people going to the incinerators couldn't a use that as a green source of energy?

Soylent Green?

 

[Jon]

@Uncle Gizmo My apologies, I got the information wrong. You are 7 times more likely to need a ventilator and 3 times more likely to die if you have fat eyes.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-people-THREE-TIMES-likely-die-Covid-19.html

 

[kevlray]

I know I should be fasting from time to time. I just have a serious lack of will power. I have tried fasting for a couple of days in the past. I felt like I was constantly hungry. Tried drinking a lot of water and some juices to help, but it never seemed to help. I even tried a cup of plain white rice (now that I know more about white rice, it probably was not a good choice).

 

[Gasman]

I can confirm that the body needs salt.

When I was in the Merchant Navy, we had no salt tablets in the mess one day and that evening an alternator blew up off the coast of West AFrica. We all turned to.

After an hour or so, despite having a few cokes, I felt a little dizzy.

I managed to get out on deck from the engine room, and sat down, with some help from some other engineers.

By that time, I had lost the use of my arms and legs. The only thing I could move was my head. I looked like a Guy Fawkes dummy.

One of the engineers fed me salt tablets and water and slowly I got the feeling back in my limbs. Not a nice feeling I can tell you.

After that, I always carried a small bottle of salt tablets on my person.

 

[Jon]

Way to go @Uncle Gizmo!

 

[Jon]

There is an intermittent fasting thing. You eat 600 calories on a Monday, then eat normally the rest of the week.

 

[Jon]

In the past, I looked into the studies on fasting and followed the 5:2 diet for a few months. It does help you lose weight because on those fasting days, you are likely to be 1500 calories or more under your typical requirements, if male. That amounts to nearly 1lb weight loss per week.

It is not an old wives tale. By restricting calories, you trigger a certain gene complex that is involved in body repair and anti-aging. I think it is called mTOR. This process of triggering genes is called epigenetics, a fairly new area of study. It means that certain genes can be turned on or off, according to triggers or need. The theory goes that in the past, when food was scarce, it would stimulate a gene complex that would stop growth (cell multiplication), which helps conserve energy from cellular growth activity and instead stimulate repair. Some of the effects are increased energy, since this helps provide extra oomph to go find food.

There is a ton of research into how to stimulate this gene complex via drugs, since in mouse models it helps increase both health span and life span. Resveratrol was one compound they hoped would work, although the effect seems to be milder than they hoped. They are doing experiments on NMN and NAD+, which I believe have positive early signs.

Another name that comes to mind is sirtuins, which are associated with this. A guy called David Sinclair has done a ton of research on this area. The guy is very smart and the video below is a fascinating watch.

 

[moke123]

Wish this guy was fasting and not spreading his left overs in my backyard.

 

[Jon]

@Uncle Gizmo Glad you liked it. The first interview they did was great too. I already have Joe Rogan on my podcast list and I use Google Podcasts too. I listen to stuff in my car and while on walks. Or at the gym back in the days when it was safe to go.

Is there anything of particular interest that David Sinclair talked about that caught your attention?

 

[Jon]

CRISPR allows you to precisely edit genes. It is a breakthrough technology that will revolutionise medicine, for sure.

I started listening to that video again. I had forgotten a lot of what they talked about, but I've gone over this sort of stuff for years. The future is bright!

George Church is another fascinating guy. He thinks you might be able to reverse aging in 5 years time. I think he has about 100 different studies going at the same time at Harvard.

He has a popular book out called Lifespan. I mean to read it one day.

Lifespan: Why We Age – and Why We... by Sinclair, Dr David A.

Lifespan: Why We Age – and Why We... by Sinclair, Dr David A.

www.amazon.co.uk

 

[AccessBlaster]

14lbs is pretty good!

 

[kevlray]

I need to lose about 30 lbs (not sure how many stones that is). But alas I have really poor discipline when it comes to eating food. I was getting some decent exercise before it got really hot (>100 degrees fahrenheit) and the air quality got real bad (down wind from a number of wild fires in the mountains).