Hello, I inherited an older access db (I think it is currently using 2002 container/mdb) and it is done in a style that I am not familiar. The previous developer was fond of subforms, and uses them often. I on the other hand struggled to make them work for me when first starting out, and abandoned learning how they operate years ago. Which leaves me in a bind... On the main form there are two pairs of fields which capture the date and username when a record is added/updated, which stopped working for whatever reason. My problem is I can't seem to make the main form notice when the fields are updated in the subforms. I tried in vain to use the new record and after update events on the subforms, but no joy. It's like the main form doesn't know what's happening in the subforms. How can I make the main form notice when data has been modified on the subforms? Can someone give me a push in the right direction? Thanks! -Matt G.