Live to work? or Work to live?

I'm not big on the whole daycare thing. When we had our first child my wife quit her job to stay at home, and while we've had to make sacrifices because of losing her pay, I wouldn't have it any other way.

And what if your wife, like you, wanted to keep her career yet insisted that one parent stayed at home with the kids? Would you have been willing to be the one at home?

Many children in my daughter's class have 2 working parents. These kids have no idea of right/wrong, manners, or any of the other things thate parents used to teach their children.

No doubt you choose the examples to suit your case. There are plenty of very well adjusted children with both parents working. In many cases it is the children with no working parents who are the biggest problems.

As far as educationally and socially my daughter is actually slightly ahead of her classmates, all of whom are older than her(this is her teacher's opinion, not just mine).

I attribute it all to having a wonderful loving mother who was able to stay at home with them.

My daughter is now 25. When she was young she spent a lot of time in daycare, with friend's families etc. She is probably one of the brightest, most responsible and socially adept people I have ever known.
 
I was not asking about your inability to pilot an aircraft. I was asking someone else about how many children they have, just out of interest in the context of his opinion of his wifes life task being in charge of the household and raising his children.

Is that relevent?
I cant fly a plane but have a view on some of the landings I have experienced.
Brian
PS I really must learn how to multi quote. :D
 
So how many children did you have?

Not relevant.

If I say none, then I will be dismissed as not knowing what I am talking about. If I say three, then I will be allowed to continue the discussion.

If I have none, then I can see from the "outside" what a mess children have become - and possibly why. If I have three, then I could become blinkered into not seeing the obvious.
No parent likes to be critisised as can be seen by some of the previous posted comments.

Col
 
No parent likes to be critisised as can be seen by some of the previous posted comments.

Col
Spelling. Col you must try to get your spelling right. It should be criticised:D
 
Gentlemen, and ladies,
I have enjoyed the previous post, as I have been in all of the above mention at one time or another. I now have the best of both worlds. I have retired from the Navy and Navy Reserves with a pension, and my Navy medical. I was in aviation part of that time aboard the Aircraft Carrier Wasp, and then went into the SeeBee Reserves. I have retired from the work to live and the live to work categories, so have my SSI. I have become involved in a ministry that takes me all over the good old USA. I not only get to see many sites, but get paid to do it. If everything has a down side, I guess mine would be I never know from month to month what my total salary will be, as part is based on what is taken up in a collection. Except for the aches and pains this is the most enjoyable time of my life. Just by chance are there any out there that have also served aboard the USS Wasp?
 
Oh how can that be, I spelled SeaBees wrong, Please shipmates don't throw me overboard.
 
Hello, Dick7Access... when you were a CB reservist, did you ever run across a Navy Reserve personnel system called RHS?

If so, you have found the RHS system administrator. I've been with that project since 1988 through three different hardware platforms, five major versions of the operating system, and four major disk reconfigurations.
 
Hey Doc,
Yes I did, I don't remeber what it did and wasn't involve in its operations. I remember my units setting up a small office for it, but don't remember much about it Clue me in.
 
I was not asking about your inability to pilot an aircraft. I was asking someone else about how many children they have, just out of interest in the context of his opinion of his wifes life task being in charge of the household and raising his children.

It was an analogy, I was indicating that one doesn't have to done something inorder to be able to express an opinion of others performance.

Brian
 
It was an analogy, I was indicating that one doesn't have to done something inorder to be able to express an opinion of others performance.

Brian

Bri, I'm afraid Fifty2One's reply was a typical American response by being blind to what was an obvious analogy. Strange really.:confused:

Col
 
Just by chance are there any out there that have also served aboard the USS Wasp?

Was there really a USS Wasp? What an absolutely horrid name - you'd think the US would come up with something a little better.

I thought USS stood for United States Starship - is the Wasp a shuttlecraft?

Col
 
Col,
Surely you jest, or more over you excel in the art of arousing Oh! but a pity to waste such a talent on a mere mortal as I than cannot be displaced by inane innuendos.
 
Was there really a USS Wasp? What an absolutely horrid name - you'd think the US would come up with something a little better.

I thought USS stood for United States Starship - is the Wasp a shuttlecraft?

Col

You don't like the British motorcycle company of the same name then?
 
And what if your wife, like you, wanted to keep her career yet insisted that one parent stayed at home with the kids? Would you have been willing to be the one at home?

Since a one word response wasn't enough. I would have gladly stayed at home with the little ones.

Heck if I had the means, we'd both be at home with them.

It wasn't that I insisted that she stay home. It was that she wanted to stay home.
 
dan-cat,
What is the British m/c company by the same name? Back in the 40's my Dad had a little M/C shop and new he sold only British bikes. His line was Royal Enfield’s, and Vincent’s. Anybody ever hear of the Vincent Black Shadow. Does anybody know if Vincent is still in business? Years later he switched to Triumphs and Norton’s.
 
Was there really a USS Wasp? What an absolutely horrid name - you'd think the US would come up with something a little better.

I thought USS stood for United States Starship - is the Wasp a shuttlecraft?

Col
Sounds to me as if the USS Wasp could have a nippy sting:D
 
dan-cat,
His line was Royal Enfield’s, and Vincent’s. Anybody ever hear of the Vincent Black Shadow. Does anybody know if Vincent is still in business?

Yes, when at uni in London a shop in Putney sold them and my mate and I used to go and drool over them, but our student finances didn't stretch that far and I had to make do with a BSA B1 and he a solid frame Enfield. but I forget the model.

Vincent stopped trading decades ago.

Brian
 
Hi Brian
My Dad sold Royal Enfield’s and Vincent new, but used he sold whatever came in for a trade. He uses some of these as his personal bike. One of those that I remember best (1948 I was 5) was a BSA with a side car. When he went and run errands I would sit and lie-down in the side car with my little sister and play games. He was taking care of us as my mother worked in a mill to help get the business of the ground. The bike I remember best is when he bought a British paratrooper bike. He converted it into a mini bike for me before mini bikes were even though of. He also had a race team and we would go often on weekends and race. On intermission they would put me out there in a little white suit and hat and have me ride around in front of the grandstands. Later when I was about 10 we moved up to the main highway and a bigger garage and he switch to Triumph’s and Norton’s. My Dad hated Harley Davidson’s.
 
Hey, Dick7Access,

The Reserve Headquarters Support (RHS) computer system was the personnel management system for the USNR. Still is. In 1988 when I joined the project, they had just converted it from a PDP-11/70 running RSTS/E v9 to a VAX/VMS cluster running (at the time) some version of VMS around 3.5 or so. As a systems administrator, I rode herd on user security, disk resources, and a few other things. Our Operations group took care of tapes, volume mounting and dismounting, and printer management.

I can't tell you everything the system did or still does because I'm the security and resources guy. The applications team could give you the bloody-gory details. I can tell you that if you got promoted, transferred, mobilized, demobilized, separated from service, joined the service, improved your education, or changed your dependent records by marriage, divorce, or childbirth, RHS probably has a record of it somewhere.

And when Col gets on one of his snits, ignore his silly butt. Everyone recognizes when he is trying to bait you.

To Col: Yes, there were many USA warships with various names. Names like Hornet, Wasp, Sparrow, Stingray, Cuttlefish, Enterprise, Yorktown... But what's in a name? If you are on the business end of a Colt .45 or a Thompson .45 SMG, you are still in a world of hurt when someone pulls the trigger. The name of the gun won't matter, will it?

Regarding names: The military mind in every war comes up with names that are best left to history to decide just how silly they were. That is true on both sides of the pond. A few years ago we had a Dept. of Defense operation called Moonlight Maze. It had to do with computers. That's all I may tell you about it. It provides an excellent example of naming things just to have a name. So why would it matter to you that the Wasp or the Hornet or the Poseidon are all ship's names? Everything has to have a name. Even you, Col.
 
Hi Doc,
As I said when the RHS hit our unit some guys were involved in it and they were hush hush. I was too busy as a platoon commander trying to whip some SAMS into shape to get them promoted to get involved in the computer stuff, and was not involved with computers even at home. I did use the boxes and boxes of the old card with the slots in them (whatever they were called) as note paper. As for COL I saw thru him very early. I kind of feel sorry for him in a way, except I have a personal motto, “You are now free and 21, you can’t blame your mommy anymore” Secondly usually people like that are 4f’s, and have inherited the “Grapes were probable sour anyways.”
dick S
 

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