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[KenHigg]

Email I received:

Some of you will recognize the name of Bill Brown. He is a highly respected retired member of the Billy Graham team. And I am blessed to count him as a friend whom I've known a long time. (His wife is the British actress who was in one of the Billy Graham films. She is also an author.) So I take his assessment of Obama very seriously and for that reason accept his challenge to pass this on. I share his concern about the "rock star" image Obama has and watch with growing concern at the celebrity status the media has foisted upon him. I hope this email informs you in a wise way.

Helen K. Hosier, Flower Mound, TX
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We are witnessing a political phenomenon with Barack Obama of rare magnitude. His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his followers have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of "Change" or that he says he will be a "Uniter." The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma and both his manner of speech and particularly the content changed millions. On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler inspired millions and the results were catastrophic. Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many Americans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore.

Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:

He voted against banning partial birth abortion.
He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.
Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.
In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing.
Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair.
Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college.
His religious convictions are very murky.
He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations.
Opposed the Patriot Act.
First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform.
Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.
Supports universal health-care.
Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.
Supports granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.
Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.
Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.
Wants to make the minimum wage a "living wage".
Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.
Is a big believer in the separation of church and state.
Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid.
He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax.
He voted No on repealing the "Death" Tax.
He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax.
Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded.
He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.

If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama's and you think that his positions will bring America together or make it a better place, then you will probably enjoy the ride and not forward this Email.

If you are like most Americans who, after examining what he stands for, are truly not in line with his record, it would be prudent to get off the wave or better yet, never get on, before it comes on shore and undermines the very foundations of this great Country. We have limited time to save America or the Supreme Court as we know it. Inaction is action.

 

[Brianwarnock]

There were many items in there that sound good and if American's are really objecting to this

Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations.

as an idea then no wonder America makes such a mess of its foreign policies.

Brian

 

[KenHigg]

There were many items in there that sound good and if American's are really objecting to this



as an idea then no wonder America makes such a mess of its foreign policies.

Brian

That caught my eye as well... With all the money we pay the politicians you'd think somebody would be talking to these people...?!?

 

[Darth Vodka]

Obama is a liberal then, quelle surprise

for most of those i say "good!"

seperation of church and state? oh you mean the thing in the constitution? the best idea ever?

Supports universal health-care? you mean like we have in Britain, instead of treating the poor as proletariat scum?

the surge in Iraq hasn't succeeded? it hasn't

Voted with Democratic Party? you mean he actually sides with his own party? WOW

whatever next, sky is blue shocker?
pope against abortion?
bear sh1ts in wood?

 

[ShaneMan]

seperation of church and state? oh you mean the thing in the constitution? the best idea ever?

I would be all for it to, IF they meant it like our founding fathers did!

 

[Wayne Cramer]

If Britain has Universal health care then what's the problem? The United States is part of the Universe so you should be taking care of our health care needs. By the way, when were you in Iraq last since you're an expert on the effectiveness of the surge?

 

[Brianwarnock]

. By the way, when were you in Iraq last since you're an expert on the effectiveness of the surge?

So nobody can comment on anything they haven't experienced personally and enough to be an expert. And a deathly silence fell on the planet.

Brian

 

[Rich]

By the way, when were you in Iraq last since you're an expert on the effectiveness of the surge?

Watch the BBC for the real picture, the fact is that Yankee tv doesn't even mention the poor sodding Iraqis killed everyday in this almighty balls up!

 

[ColinEssex]

If Britain has Universal health care then what's the problem?

The UK has a National Health Service, not universal. That's why it's called the NHS.

Any Yank that comes here and has to have hospital treatment has to pay as they are not eligible for free treatment. So make sure you have health insurance when you come to the UK.
I used to take great delight telling US citizens they had to pay when they expected free treatment, especially those who had no insurance. It was part of my job to interview the patient if they were from overseas to assertain their eligibility status. I'm afraid they Yanks were the most arrogant who a) expected free treatment and b) a private room

Col

 

[statsman]

With your previously stated opinions on America and Americans, I bet you just loved revealing this information.

 

[Rich]

With your previously stated opinions on America and Americans, I bet you just loved revealing this information.

Well they do need to be educated on Worldly matters

 

[ColinEssex]

With your previously stated opinions on America and Americans, I bet you just loved revealing this information.

I was doing my job. Stopping ineligible foreigners sponging off our NHS. Although, when the Americans came on all arrogant and loudmouthed and expected to be treated free (as did many of them), there was some delight in telling them they were mistaken.
I remember some Amercans called me 'boy'. . . . . as in 'what's your name boy?' - I tactfully pointed out I was not their 'boy' and if they cared to read my nametag they would see my name and management position.

I had strict guidelines from the Dept of Health as to what I could say and not say, so in keeping with British ettiquette and my professionalism it was perfectly polite and courtious.

The main concern was treating the patient and this was never comprimised.

Col

 

[Darth Vodka]

If Britain has Universal health care then what's the problem? The United States is part of the Universe so you should be taking care of our health care needs. By the way, when were you in Iraq last since you're an expert on the effectiveness of the surge?

misquoting and specious reasoning

nice



I know the surge in Vietnam wasn't successful, I never went

and oh, yes, it's true, martians can apply for green blood transfusions on the NHS (sorry i mean UHS)

 

[Wayne Cramer]

Yes, we're had over thirty years of history to show that the "surge" in Vietnam was unsuccessful. The Iraq surge is only a year old. Don't get me wrong. I believe that within twenty five years Iraq will have another strongman dictator the ilk of Sadam Hussein. Cuba has national health care but when Castro gets ill he flys in the doctors, equipment and medication from Europe. I guess national health care is only for the bottom dwellers.

 

[Heywood43]

seperation of church and state? oh you mean the thing in the constitution?

Incorrect.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

In other words, there is no state sponsored religion and you are free to practice any religion you want. That's the Constitution.

The term "separation between church and state" comes from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson and is not part of the Constitution.

 

[ColinEssex]

In other words, there is no state sponsored religion and you are free to practice any religion you want. That's the Constitution.

Except Muslim.

Col

 

[ShaneMan]

Except Muslim.

Col

Yes, and this evidenced by somewhere over 1200 mosques in this country and that's not counting individuals who are Muslims.

 

[KenHigg]

This is semi related and very funny...(and sad I suppose )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWdiHtv6T6s&feature=related

 

[ColinEssex]

This is semi related and very funny...(and sad I suppose )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWdiHtv6T6s&feature=related

It would be funny if it wasn't true.

The impersonation is terrible, it sounds more like Ronnie RayGun to me.

Col

 

[Heywood43]

Except Muslim.

I am not sure what you are basing that on or even what your point is.

My point was there is nothing in the Constitution that says "separation of church and state". Yet some claim it is even when they have not read the Constitution.

Unfortunately, there are some in the US who feel any public expression of anything religious should be silenced because of this non-existent "separation".

Some feel if there is a Cross in a public place or if some one prays out loud that their rights are being infringed on simply by being in the presence of it.

The reality is the founding fathers wanted people to be free to express themselves, religious or otherwise. Not to be forced into hiding their beliefs.