I'm a retired person who worked as an operating systems programmer in the 70's. Yes, that makes me an old codger, but I still like to keep my hand in it. I'm currently working on a home finance budgeting program using VBA for Access. I wrote most of this program 20 years ago and I have probably forgotten more than I ever learned about access programming. As I'm trying to upgrade the program, I'm running into a number of problems, so I will probably be asking some seemingly dumb questions. Hang in there and give me a break (or just a reasonable answer.)