Out of the mouth of babes

[cjbnash]

A Marketing junior (22 years old and just graduated from Uni) just pointed out to me quite loudly that Access is old and no one use's it anymore and we should get with the times.

She made her point to me and walked away.

I was speechless at the event

 

[Brianwarnock]

We have a saying

" empty vessels make the most noise "

Brian

 

[rodmc]

should have laughed in her face, and said 'come back and tell me that in a year', you cold also point her to the fact that RDBM's such as Oracle, SQL Server are at a price that not everyone can afford and using Oracle for a small business is like putting a ferrari engine into a car thats limited to 30mph

 

[Vassago]

She was right to a certain point. Large corporations do tend to focus on sql server, oracle, reporting services, or even ssas for most reporting and data storage. They'll build their own programs to read and write data for the end user. My company has started restricting Access usage, wanting to convert all mdb files to programs and sql server tables.

But as stated, Access will not go away for a long time. It has its uses still in small business environments. Not everyone needs high powered servers with sql server storage, nor can afford the costs associated with them.

 

[Brianwarnock]

She said no one, there was no qualification such as "less" , therefore she was totally wrong.

Brian

 

[Vassago]

She said no one, there was no qualification such as "less" , therefore she was totally wrong.

Brian

That's why I said to a certain point, but not completely. Don't use semantics on me!

 

[Brianwarnock]

Semantics are like punctuation, important in communication.

no one use's it anymore

is what she said apparently.

That means no one, not "less" , not "only a few" , but "not a single person".
therefore she is not

right to a certain point

Brian

 

[Vassago]

Semantics are like punctuation, important in communication.

is what she said apparently.

That means no one, not "less" , not "only a few" , but "not a single person".
therefore she is not

Brian

Only if she meant it in a literal sense. In her quote, I think it's up to the readers (or writers since we are reading this from a third person viewpoint) to draw their own conclusion. Some people have a knack for filling in these blanks and some don't.

 

[Brianwarnock]

We are going to have to disagree on this, I think that it is up to the speaker or writer to be correct and precise, and lets face it in an IT environment it is absolutely necessary as that high speed pedantic moron called a computer will demand it, so learn it from the start.


Brian

 

[Adam Caramon]

"no one uses it anymore" sounds like a figure of speech. I've heard similar about VHS tapes, CDs, CRT TV's, and many other things. People still use all of these things of course, but they're not a mainstay any longer.

 

[RainLover]

What was the purpose of this thread.

Do you have nothing better to do.

And since when do we take notice of Graduates. They only repeat wha their teachers say. Teachers have little knowledge of the outside world. And who in their right mind would use SQL Server when there are much better products.

No one uses SQL Server any more. Trust me, I know about these type of things. I used to sell used cars.

 

[cjbnash]

Okay

I seem to have stirred somthing here. This thread was meant as nothing more than me saying hello as a new user and as guided to do by the welcome page. An introduction to who I am and what experience I have and an introduction post in the watercooler - as this event had happened moments before I thought I would post it.

And to put an end to any confusion, she literally meant no-one. After a chat about it later, she honestly beleives that access is a dead product and we are the only company using it.

So I hope that closes that little chapter, and I am having a really big challenge with an on-change event not actually doing the event and not appearing to let me type in the text box. Any thoughts?

Chris

 

[RainLover]

Chris

Welcome to the Forum.

Anything in the Water Cooler is up for grabs. Do and say what you like.

If you want some help use the appropiate Forum.

Try the Forms Forum, or is that a Sub Forum. I don't know. Just go back to the opening page.

Cheers.

BTW. Most likely you are using the wrong event. Try before update. But don't post back here unless you are up for a bit of fun.

 

[Lightwave]

Access and Filemaker Pro are still probably the leaders in desktop IDEs

You might like to ask her what she actually uses to design desktop applications.

I suspect she'll make a lot of noises before indicating that she hasn't actually ever made one. Either that or she'll probably say - I can do everything in Excel.

 

[Brianwarnock]

What was the purpose of this thread.U

Do you have nothing better to do.

.

You mean that there is something better than a pointless lighthearted argument in the Watercooler!

And as for threads in the Watercooler having a purpose, WOW I missed that.

Brian

 

[RainLover]

You mean that there is something better than a pointless lighthearted argument in the Watercooler!

And as for threads in the Watercooler having a purpose, WOW I missed that.

Brian

I thought this was a special place of meditation. One where we can share ideas and constructive thoughts.

I especially like the one where it is OK to shoot someone because they touched an RV. Very informative.

 

[deltaegychem]

She was right to a certain point. Large corporations do tend to focus on sql server, oracle, reporting services, or even ssas for most reporting and data storage. They'll build their own programs to read and write data for the end user. My company has started restricting Access usage, wanting to convert all mdb files to programs and sql server tables.

But as stated, Access will not go away for a long time. It has its uses still in small business environments. Not everyone needs high powered servers with sql server storage, nor can afford the costs associated with them.

Thanks God because the market of the small business are much much bigger than Large Corporations' market