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... the hint of the tarbrush

Col

If I were a black person I think that would make me madder than being called the n word... :rolleyes:

Sounds like something 375 would say :(
 
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Jeez - who cares what color anyone is? (Now, SHORT people ....)
 
If I were a black person :rolleyes:
Ah, but you're not.

Actually, it's a phrase I picked up from work (when I was there) I'd never heard it before.

Col
 
(Now, SHORT people ....)
Okay, you just stepped over the line ...:cool:

<thinking to himself> let's see, should I ban him for that comment or should I let him stay......hmmmm......I guess I'll let it pass this time <ends thought process> :D
 
You don't feel a bit racist when you use it?

ken

No, but my views are not like the Americans, I don't say one thing and think something else.

Question(s) - If I say I don't like Africans - am I racist? If I say I don't like Americans - am I racist? If I say I don't like Pakistanis' - am I racist?

Col
 
If you don't feel a little racist when you refer to a black person as a person whom has 'hint of the tarbrush' then you come accross as being more racist than 95% of the Americans I know.

I'm curious as to if this 'hint of the tarbrush' reference is considered acceptable in the UK as a rule of thumb or is Col's usage an exception?

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ken
 
abit off topic but i love it when people call black people african american i find it hilarious. The fact that i find it so derogatory that people automatically assume that a black person is a) and american citizen b) from africa... its a racist statement in the fact that it sterotypes all black people orginating from africa! eheh

oh and another thing their has already been a black american president his name was President David Palmer ;)
 
No, but my views are not like the Americans, I don't say one thing and think something else.

Question(s) - If I say I don't like Africans - am I racist? If I say I don't like Americans - am I racist? If I say I don't like Pakistanis' - am I racist?

Col

It's a question of fairness. You always run the risk of being unfair if you judge individual people on the basis of their membership of a wider group. So you show yourself as being someone who doesn't care about being unfair if you think in such ways. Racism (judging individuals by their racial grouping) is particularly unacceptable, but it may be no less unfair to judge an individual on the basis that he/she is 'American' or 'African' - and no less opprobrium may be heaped upon you.
 
and, incidentally, although Benjamin Franklin was not black, several of his children were!
 
thats cause his mate told him you aint a man till you shagged a tan
 
If you don't feel a little racist when you refer to a black person as a person whom has 'hint of the tarbrush' then you come accross as being more racist than 95% of the Americans I know.

I'm curious as to if this 'hint of the tarbrush' reference is considered acceptable in the UK as a rule of thumb or is Col's usage an exception?

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ken

NOT ACCEPTABLE -Full Stop - if said in the correct venue would get you a thick ear at least - I find it total unacceptable -rude and insulting
 
I'm curious as to if this 'hint of the tarbrush' reference is considered acceptable in the UK as a rule of thumb
Not in the slightest (outside the NF, perhaps?).

Nor are terms like 'Chinky', which I've frequently seen used here but which my Chinese friends treat the same way black people do "the 'N' word". If anyone is in any doubt about that, go hang around a group of youths in one of the predominantly Chinese areas of the UK and start using it.

I'm sure many people don't take offence at saying them, but that doesn't mean the people being referred to like it.

I had to get used to quiet a few terms that aren't acceptable in Canada, but which I know black friends weren't worried by (and used), back home. You live and learn, I suppose.
 
abit off topic but i love it when people call black people african american i find it hilarious. The fact that i find it so derogatory that people automatically assume that a black person is a) and american citizen b) from africa... its a racist statement in the fact that it sterotypes all black people orginating from africa! eheh

- I must admit this is a bit of a red rag to a bull for me .
if you asked a "Black" brit how to describe themselves they would say English/Welsh/Scot (Brit )

colour is not (such) an issue ..
 
abit off topic but i love it when people call black people african american i find it hilarious. The fact that i find it so derogatory that people automatically assume that a black person is a) and american citizen b) from africa... its a racist statement in the fact that it sterotypes all black people orginating from africa! eheh
With you on this one.

I also always feel like it's creating a subconscious barrier to full integration within society. White people rarely refer to themselves as 'European-Americans' (although I do hear 'Italian-american' for some reason), most seem perfectly happy just being 'American'. Why this need to verbally segregate some people into 'African-', 'Asian-', 'Italian-' or whatever?
 
we have black irish - but this isn't want you think..
 

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