Shoes?

[Pat Hartman]

So @moke123 If I steal a diamond necklace but give it back when caught, it doesn't count. That's a new interpretation of law. If you don't get caught, you get to keep it but if you get caught, you only have to give it back. I love it. No harm, no foul. Everything is erased. No wonder sanctuary cities now just let criminals walk free, no bail. I get it now. Wow! Who knew? Show me the way to the nearest Tiffany's.

@moke123 Perhaps you can point to the actual law that governs Presidential access to secret documents. I'm not talking about Obama's Executive Order. Executive Orders come and go with Presidents. You know, the one that makes it a crime for President Trump to take secret documents but not a random Senator or VP.

 

[moke123]

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b). The PRA makes clear that, upon the conclusion of the President’s term in office, NARA assumes responsibility for the custody, control, preservation of, and access to the records of a President. 44 U.S.C. 2203(g)(1). The PRA makes the legal status of Presidential records clear and unambiguous, providing that the United States reserves and retains “complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” 44 U.S.C. 2202. There is no history, practice, or provision in law for presidents to take official records with them when they leave office to sort through, such as for a two-year period as described in some reports. If a former President or Vice President finds Presidential records among personal materials, he or she is expected to contact NARA in a timely manner to secure the transfer of those Presidential records to NARA.

 

[Jon]

So @moke123 If I steal a diamond necklace but give it back when caught, it doesn't count.

What about if you throw away an $80,000 diamond, like recently claimed by a certain Biden?

 

[AccessBlaster]

Twice..

 

[Pat Hartman]

And the CRIMINAL penalty is - a SWAT team raiding your home and rifling through your wife's undies but absolution for Biden and Pence because you like them? Where is the part about if you take records from a SCIF but give them back, you are exonerated of the crime of taking them in the first place? Where is that in the criminal code? Where does it say that if you give back the secret stuff you stole illegally, all is forgiven?

Until we can all agree that Biden and Pence committed an actual CRIME, you know, the kind that violates national secrets and results in a jail term, simply with the act of taking documents from a SCIF in the first place, you are lying to yourselves. Not to mention persecuting Trump for a "disagreement". As long as you are totally unwilling to admit that Biden and Pence who deliberately took secret documents from a SCIF committed a serious crime, then you have been blinded by your TDS.

 

[Isaac]

I only buy shoes from two places.walmart and skechers. walmart when i'm in the mood for a useable, last six mo. $25 shoes. skechers when i want a good slip on

 

[Pat Hartman]

I like sketchers.

 

[Isaac]

Trump was not allowed to keep the documents that were taken to Florida. Senators and Vice President do see and hold classified documents. They found 10 documents at Bidens home, Trump had boxes and boxes of documents, some stored in a bathroom. I repeat,if Donald had honored the initial request from archives it would have been over, That's not my assertion, but that of highly respected lawyers, both left and right.

But presidents have the distinct ability (versus senators) to mark any and all things secret classified - Biden did not. And I think storing documents at your secure estate is much better than boxes of them in your GARAGE, where we all know rodents, bugs, burglaries are common