The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities

[BarryMK]

To whom it may concern,
When you think about my topic, you might want to think outside the box.
Exactly what is 'Thinking Outside the Box'?
Outside the Box
Thinking outside the box requires different attributes that include:
Willingness to take new perspectives to day-to-day work.
Openness to do different things and to do things differently.
Focusing on the value of finding new ideas and acting on them.
Striving to create value in new ways.
Listening to others.
Supporting and respecting others when they come up with new ideas.

Out-of-the box thinking requires an openness to new ways of seeing the world and a willingness to explore. Out-of-the box thinkers know that new ideas need nurturing and support. They also know that having an idea is good but acting on it is more important. Results are what count

Tim

Mmmmm, impressive thinking, pushing back the boundaries etc etc. You're not a business consultant by any chance?

 

[Brianwarnock]

I never had any problems with ME

I've no problems with me either, but it doesn't stop other people moaning.

Brian

 

[BarryMK]

I've no problems with me either, but it doesn't stop other people moaning.

Brian

Brian you've got too much time on your hands

 

[Brianwarnock]

Brian you've got too much time on your hands

See what I mean , and i've spent all morning dusting and vacuuming.

Brian

 

[BarryMK]

See what I mean , and i've spent all morning dusting and vacuuming.

Brian

Well done. now you can treat yourself to a clean, new pinny!

 

[Brianwarnock]

Thankyou Barry, I'll do that. Shouldn't you be working? or are you also on a coffeee break?

Brian

 

[GaryPanic]

To communicate with the future ??
this does seem a bit far fetched , if you can communicate with the future, then you will be altering it - example

if you turn left tomorrow you will be hit by a bus
so you turn right instead - now you ahven't been hit by a bus and you have altered the future or ..you never would of been hit by the bus .

if we assume that you have altered history - and I can kinda go along with this for a while - then how could the entity tell you about something that has not happened - and would that entity be changed because of your action in turning right (instead of left)

now we can argue that you are not allowed to tell people this (from the futre to the past) - but could you not tell someone something like this -

out actions today set our future tomorrow - any changes we make today will have an impact on the future -therefore any amendments after the fact will change the fact before its happend - a bit of gobbly Gook here -.

It just does not make sense .. (which is fine .. but a bit out there)

Science does not have all the answers to everything, but it is the only logical tool we can use at the moment - after science it them becomes a belief - an act of faith (again which might be right, I cannot discount anything, which includes this view being wrong/right - its trying to be objective with te beliefs and present attitiude that I have been brought up with .

 

[GaryPanic]

as to out of the box thinking
I'd like to think that I can be objective and think outside of my own preset values.. but as long as the person asking me to think outside of this - can be objective and also think inside the box (or at least look at there view from inside and outside of th e box)
if they are trying to be objective and they only think outside of the box - then this isn't going to work

90% of the time things are inside of the box - I drive to work - I don't drive to work but try doing it fromt he rear seat - etc
driving to work means that I seat behind the steering wheel and etc ....

 

[BarryMK]

Thankyou Barry, I'll do that. Shouldn't you be working? or are you also on a coffeee break?

Brian

Life in local government is one long coffee break. At least that's what everyone outside of local government tells me.

 

[GaryPanic]

Get back to work you lazy so'n so (only Kidding)
did you see the report that 25% of council tax goes on pensions -...
Need to sort this out - madness
surely now is the time to move local goverement worker to private pensions (and yes given them a decent salary as well) - but the local goverment workers can retire at 60 and only pay 6% into the pension pot .

this needs a good shake to see what can be done

g

 

[BarryMK]

Get back to work you lazy so'n so (only Kidding)
did you see the report that 25% of council tax goes on pensions -...
Need to sort this out - madness
surely now is the time to move local goverement worker to private pensions (and yes given them a decent salary as well) - but the local goverment workers can retire at 60 and only pay 6% into the pension pot .

this needs a good shake to see what can be done

g

Yes I saw the headlines, not sure how accurate this is though. I just wonder what proportion of the alleged 25% goes to first and second tier officers on very comfortable thankyou salaries because I can tell you I can't retire at 60 and not many of my colleagues can either. Take a look at the desultory pay rises we've had in the last few years.

 

[Brianwarnock]

I did wonder if Gary was after starting a civil war with Barry, but Barry is of course far too polite, nice to see you on the 'cooler again Barry.

brian

 

[BarryMK]

I did wonder if Gary was after starting a civil war with Barry, but Barry is of course far too polite, nice to see you on the 'cooler again Barry.

brian

Thanks Brian
I'm only here because I just couldn't resist a mild poke at the original poster and so far Rich & Col haven't derailed the thread (yet! )

 

[GaryPanic]

wasn't one for picking a fight - just what was reported in the press.

as to pensions - these need sorting out full stop - not just LGA - everyones

went for a job interview the other day and they were only putting in 5% - cheapskates...


Hope Barry didn't take it as a pop at him

 

[ColinEssex]

Thanks Brian
I'm only here because I just couldn't resist a mild poke at the original poster and so far Rich & Col haven't derailed the thread (yet! )

as if

Col

 

[BarryMK]

Hope Barry didn't take it as a pop at him

None taken

as if

Col

Of course, what was I thinking?

 

[Tim Brewer]

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Thank you,
Tim

 

[BarryMK]

Dear Mr Vehram Please send me £100,000 by return and I promise to tell all my friends.

A Nuther-Crackpot Esq.

 

[GaryPanic]

give me enough time and I could convinece people that the moons square ...
research bhah ...

if you want a report to say one thing then you can justify it - or lean on the results to get this .

g

 

[BarryMK]

I am actually the intergalactic ambassador from Venus and we'd like all Scientologists to be placed in a large rocket and sent back to us as the place is going to pot without their intelligent, considered influence. (Don't worry if you haven't got a rocket that will actually get to Venus as we will pull them in with our giant tractor beam currently being manufactured in China.)

ps Send the Vehram people as well, they seem like our kind of people.