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For me the words Universe and God are interchangeable, they were both created from nothing, omnipresent, forever expanding.
For me the words Universe and God are interchangeable, they were both created from nothing, omnipresent, forever expanding.
Even when they ra** civilian women after abducting them or breaking into their homes? That's my kind of religion. No wonder your poor women have to hide themselves from you. They are in constant danger of being ra*** by animals. Maybe instead of dropping bombs on military targets, the Israelis should give you the eye for an eye treatment and treat you EXACTLY the way you treated them on Oct 7th.If Muslims follow the Qur'an and Sunnah, then they are rightly guided.
GOD is forever expanding? He must have incredible elasticity then!forever expanding
Considering how far religion stretches credulity, I suppose it could stretch a universe just a little bit.
After he created you his work was finished and he went into retirement.GOD is forever expanding? He must have incredible elasticity then!
I get that a lot from Christians
So someone who contributed to the Qur'an came up with a philosophical description of fertilization and got it maybe a bit close.
That sounds like Jesus is the Son of God to me. I didn't add anything or take anything away. There are other translations of course but they all translate to the same Jesus is clearly the Son of God.Jesus Prays to Be Glorified
17 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:
“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
Jesus Appears to Mary Magdalene
11 Now Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb 12 and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus’ body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.
13 They asked her, “Woman, why are you crying?”
“They have taken my Lord away,” she said, “and I don’t know where they have put him.” 14 At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus.
15 He asked her, “Woman, why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?”
Thinking he was the gardener, she said, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will get him.”
16 Jesus said to her, “Mary.”
She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher”).
17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
18 Mary Magdalene went to the disciples with the news: “I have seen the Lord!” And she told them that he had said these things to her.
We are in agreement here so not sure what the problem is. Yes there is God the Father. All Christians know that.28 One of the scribes came near and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, he asked him, ‘Which commandment is the first of all?’
29 Jesus answered, ‘The first is, “Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one;
30 you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.”
Mark 12:28-30
He was preparing for his ministry. I don't ignore the fact that Jesus was nearing the end of his long fasting in woods and was being tempted by Satan. So what? Are you going to ignore all the verses where clearly he identified himself as the Son of God. The most famous is John 3:16, surely you understand that it is Jesus that is being talked about in that verse as being the Son of God.Jesus said to him, ‘Away with you, Satan! for it is written, “Worship the Lord your God, and serve only him.”’
Matthew 4:10
You initially ignored post #60 because you recognised the truth and you have been obfuscating and in denial ever since
I would turn that around on you and say at some point we are going to have to accept that only an eternal creator God could possible create something such as the universe out of nothing.
It's much more than that. I'm not one of those blind faith people anymore, although that might have been the case at first. I feel more like God has revealed himself to me progressively over time. It didn't happen overnight. This is an important point for realizing why God's plan is taking a long time to play out. He wants us all to come to him and he is very patient about it.I would only say that as long as you realise that you are basing your reasoning on your feeling that the universe needs a creator.
Mike Krailo, try reading from the Bible, in particular the words of the Muslim Jesus.
And this is eternal life, that they may know you (meaning the Father), the only TRUE God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
John 17:3
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
John 20:17
[Jesus said], "And indeed, Allaah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path."
Qur'an 19:36
28 One of the scribes came near and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, he asked him, ‘Which commandment is the first of all?’
29 Jesus answered, ‘The first is, “Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one;
30 you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.”
Mark 12:28-30
Jesus said to him, ‘Away with you, Satan! for it is written, “Worship the Lord your God, and serve only him.”’
Matthew 4:10
The above explicit verses are typical verses that Christians IGNORE. I wonder why!
The problem is that the Paulians claim that Jesus is also God. Who are you kidding? All Christians know that.We are in agreement here so not sure what the problem is. Yes there is God the Father.
Hmmm, funny that Jesus never claims this in the bible. He also says he is the son of Man.only begotten Son, Jesus.
Wrong. Actually mostly the NRSV bible.Sounds like you cut and pasted from a Jehovah's Witness website, which tends to mention the same verses.
ou would have a contradiction then and you haven't provided any verses anyway. There is NO TRINITY in the earliest versions of the bible and there is certainly no mention of it even in the old testament. No where does Jesus himself says there is a triunne God. This was invented in the 4th century.So what about the other 100 verses that imply he IS God? Well, that's why we have the concept of a Trinity.
Of course he didn't, others testified... like the spirit.Jesus never claimed to be the 'begotten' son of God.