The Roman reason (1 Viewer)

[jpl458]

Just heard that homosexuality caused the fall of the Roman Empire. I wasn't taught that in history classes. what I learned was as follows: What caused the fall of Rome? Corruption, the division of the empire, and invasion by Germanic tribes were the three main causes of the fall of Rome. Some scholars believe that there were other contributing factors as well. I also feel that it started when Caesar crossed the Rubicon. The New Speaker of the House should read a book other than the Bible and stop watching YouTube.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Well, if you heard that from a politician, what did you expect other than an advancement of his agenda? The speaker of the house is a member of the Religious Right sub-group of Republicans.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I heard it was "freebies" that caused the collapse. After all their successes they started a welfare state and that started corruption from within.

I could be wrong.

 

[Pat Hartman]

I thought that they all got stupid from drinking wine out of lead goblets but I'd go along with corruption. Homosexuality was more commonly practiced in Greece I thought.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I heard it was "freebies" that caused the collapse. After all their successes they started a welfare state and that started corruption from within.

I could be wrong.

I cannot find the exact quote, but one of the famous Roman writers bemoaned the fact that the Empire's troubles started when the people learned that they could vote benefits for themselves. Ben Franklin repeated it without attribution.

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[ebs17]

Fast food makes you stupid and lazy and slowly destroys empires.

 

[Minty]

Did they have MacDonalds in Rome then?

 

[ebs17]

No, this was an invention specifically for America.

 

[conception_native_0123]

The New Speaker of the House should read a book other than the Bible and stop watching YouTube.

what is it with republicans and biblical philosophy? that's something I've never understood.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Only a subset of republicans, Adam. The "Religious Right" is the compendium of crackpots that are ultra-conservative to the point of not recognizing that people have rights unrelated to, and not even imagined in, the Bible.

 

[conception_native_0123]

ultra conservative richard? I guess I have only been seeing them on the TV then. makes me wonder where the rest of them are.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

makes me wonder where the rest of them are.

Church, probably.

 

[Mike Krailo]

I'm sure the anti christ will solve all your problems.

 

[GaP42]

Or none at all Mike! Imagine no religion ... not that that would solve all problems - might get rid of a root cause of many. No more imaginary beings that "adults" believe in - cast to the shadows just like ghosts or spirits.

 

[Lightwave]

I'm coming to the conclusion that nationalism/tribalism tends to the be cause of a lot of issues and nationalism can be secular.
Knowledge is the only virtue.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Or none at all Mike! Imagine no religion ... not that that would solve all problems - might get rid of a root cause of many. No more imaginary beings that "adults" believe in - cast to the shadows just like ghosts or spirits.

 

[Isaac]

I heard it was "freebies" that caused the collapse. After all their successes they started a welfare state and that started corruption from within.

I could be wrong.

Bingo. But hedonism could definitely be a contributing mindset TO the freebie-atmosphere.

 

[AccessBlaster]

While "Imagine" was a great song and often quoted in regards to religion it's not without irony.

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... You...

His net worth was 200 million at his death, so was it a case of "do as I say not as I do"?

 

[conception_native_0123]

the anti christ

you have no idea my friend. good luck.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

While "Imagine" was a great song and often quoted in regards to religion it's not without irony.

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... You...

His net worth was 200 million at his death, so was it a case of "do as I say not as I do"?

Since John Lennon died before disposing of his 200 million, I guess we can never truly know. Yoko, on the other hand, didn't dispose of it so I guess we know where her priorities reside.