Trump Administration Predictions (4 Viewers)

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@Thales750 - You are on delicate ground here. You keep returning to use of the word "Nazi" - but you were warned a few months ago about abusing people by associating that term to them. Be VERY careful how you used that word, because if you use it as a member pejorative, that is one of the more extreme insults. If you point that 4-letter word at a member, it is grounds for suspension or other moderator action. If you use it ONLY for historical reference - and CLEARLY for that purpose only - then you are inside the guidelines, even if only barely so.

We've had a couple of language complaints on the forum recently and Jon has reminded us that with the new UK laws governing web sites, he could be personally responsible if someone complains to the appropriate authorities. We just lost one Access web site. Let's not lose another. Your warning is public because folks need to see we are serious about protecting the forum through pro-active warnings.
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As you have noticed all I do is compare the leader of MAGA with the leader of the Nazi party in 1930s Germany there are a lot of similarities and only the fact that the United States has a much better government than Germany did in the early parts of the 20th century if it wasn't for our government and its momentum and traditions and separation of power Mr maga himself would have already become Mr Nazi no constraint on his part has anything to do with why he hasn't done that.
 
Mr maga himself would have already become Mr Nazi
You tell us how smart you are but you really ought to know better. Comparing Trump to one of the most evil dictators known to history is just plain ignorant. At least ignorance can be cured. Stupid cannot.

And besides. Name calling means you've lost the argument because that's all you have left;)
 
There are a few answers I could give here.

1. Don't know
2. Don't care
3. Don't wish to play games

I'll take door #2, Monty.
You are no fun. For the answer
Policy A was proposed by avowed Socialist, Zohran Mamdani. He called for rezoning of Long Island City to allow housing to be built by private developers.

Policy B was executed by Donald Trump, nominal Republican. He wants the government to have shares of private companies and have a veto power over their policies.

Is Mamdani now to the right of Trump?
 
You tell us how smart you are but you really ought to know better. Comparing Trump to one of the most evil dictators known to history is just plain ignorant. At least ignorance can be cured. Stupid cannot.

And besides. Name calling means you've lost the argument because that's all you have left;)
Seems to me your calling another member ignorant and stupid.
 
Thales - I dont think it's right you should compare Trump to Hitler or a Nazi. If you were alive during the 39-45 conflict and you saw the atrocities carried out, you would think twice. I'm not a fan of Trump but would never even consider any similarities. I think you should review your comments before posting them.
It's one thing to have harmless banter, most of it is a joke, but nobody deserves to have that comparison.
I suggest you take a look at some of the dictatorships around the world and be very thankful you were not born there - I know I am.
Col
 
Seems to me your calling another member ignorant and stupid.
Ignorant is not name calling. It is pointing out that the member has no facts to back up his name calling. Just because someone is good with crowds doesn't make him "Hitler". Why not compare AOA to Hitler? She's good with crowds. I didn't call anyone stupid. I did point out that ignorance can be cured by education and an understanding of facts but there is no cure for stupid. Is Thales ignorant for comparing Trump to Hitler or is he stupid and incapable of reading history and understanding it? Or, perhaps, you think the comparison is valid.

Comparing Hitler to Stalin or Mao would be valid. Both could handle a crowd and both were also responsible for the deaths of millions. We don't consider Hitler to be evil because he was good with crowds or understood the media. We consider Hitler to be evil because he killed millions of people deliberately because he considered them to be less than human and he started a war that resulted in the deaths of millions more. In the case of Hitler, the media was 100% on his side once he acquired enough power. In the case of Trump, the media is 100% against Trump. That means that they suppress all positive news regarding Trump and only publish negative stories. You take that to mean that Trump is the evil orange man. How can Trump be a dictator? He can't even control the Executive Branch!!!!!!!!! The deep state is so embedded that they can easily work against him. But, somehow, more than half the country actively supports Trump even knowing that he is not always right and has been known to say really stupid stuff. How do you reconcile that? Maybe, just maybe, we're not all wrong and maybe you've been suckered by the media liars.

Do you even recognize that in 2015, your opinions were almost certainly Trump's opinions and only when the left decided that they could not EVER be on the same side of any issue as Trump did the descent into TDS begin. Since the current leftist beliefs are totally irrational starting with kill all the babies but protect all the death row inmates, and the current - the criminal is actually the victim so you can't prosecute them, you cannot defend your positions. No one can defend killing babies and yet NY and Virginia specifically allow it. No one can defend protecting illegal immigrates with deportation orders and rap sheets and yet the left does. No one can defend actual victims any more since it is the criminals that are the victims based on the new world order.
 
Thales - I dont think it's right you should compare Trump to Hitler or a Nazi. If you were alive during the 39-45 conflict and you saw the atrocities carried out, you would think twice. I'm not a fan of Trump but would never even consider any similarities. I think you should review your comments before posting them.
It's one thing to have harmless banter, most of it is a joke, but nobody deserves to have that comparison.
I suggest you take a look at some of the dictatorships around the world and be very thankful you were not born there - I know I am.
Col

Thank you, Col.
 
Thales - I dont think it's right you should compare Trump to Hitler or a Nazi. If you were alive during the 39-45 conflict and you saw the atrocities carried out, you would think twice. I'm not a fan of Trump but would never even consider any similarities. I think you should review your comments before posting them.
It's one thing to have harmless banter, most of it is a joke, but nobody deserves to have that comparison.
I suggest you take a look at some of the dictatorships around the world and be very thankful you were not born there - I know I am.
Col
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I'm referring to the methods he is using to consolidate power, and his propaganda. There are definet similarities.
 
Were you in a cryogenic coma when Portland erupted and had a "no police" zone for quite a while? BLM and Antifa took over downtown Portland.
That's a very fair point. Terrorists actually did take over large swaths of Portland and several other ciites, not "letting" police or emergency vehicles through or near. It was actually around that time, I believe, when they chained doors of a police station SHUT and set fire to the building. Fortunately, their intent was thwarted, but just think about that for a moment

Supposedly all this was because of George Floyd, somehow or other. (Mostly 'other')
 
I for one am not totally against @Thales750 comparisons, because I understand what he is saying.
He's not necessarily saying "This guy is exactly like Hitler/Nazis", he's saying "there is a comparison to be made and here is what it is: ___ the methods of propoganda and speech" [or whatever he says they are]. There's absolutely nothing wrong with demonstrating a comparison if one is to be had.

One of my neighbors reminds me of Bigfoot, and when I've joked about this to my wife, she doesn't say "That's so crazy. bigfoot is 9 feet tall and has a furry body and eats people", she says rather, "I know what you mean". A comparison can be partial
 
I for one am not totally against @Thales750 comparisons, because I understand what he is saying.

I do too - but he got reported for overuse of the term 'Nazi' a few months ago. As a moderator, it is my goal to help Jon keep the forum away from things that would trigger the new UK law on insulting site content. That was why the reminder was necessary.

Behind the scenes, Jon has asked me and the other moderators for a little bit of help here and there in keeping things respectable. I probably am too lenient sometimes - and acknowledge that as a failing on my part - because some people skirt the ragged edge of direct personal insults of a credible nature. But we have to remember that there are overly sensitive souls out there who take umbrage at the smallest comment. That makes for one helluva balancing act. When we stay techie, that is more easily defensible. But the Politics and Watercooler sections can get rowdy and the margin between free speech and insulting speech sometimes CAN get razor-thin.
 
De nada.
Just out of interest, there are 16 thumbnail adverts in your last post. They are for watches, T shirts, outside coats and a camera.
Col

Since I became a VIP and later a moderator, I don't see the ads.
 
I for one am not totally against @Thales750 comparisons, because I understand what he is saying.
He's not necessarily saying "This guy is exactly like Hitler/Nazis", he's saying "there is a comparison to be made and here is what it is: ___ the methods of propoganda and speech" [or whatever he says they are]. There's absolutely nothing wrong with demonstrating a comparison if one is to be had.

One of my neighbors reminds me of Bigfoot, and when I've joked about this to my wife, she doesn't say "That's so crazy. bigfoot is 9 feet tall and has a furry body and eats people", she says rather, "I know what you mean". A comparison can be partial
It is slur by association. But let's test this...

Biden was a man, like Hitler.
Biden had a dog, like Hitler.
Biden was a politician, like Hitler.
Biden was a ruler, like Hitler.
Biden used race in his speeches, like Hitler.

Biden has a lot in common with Hitler, yet to say Biden is like a Nazi is just defamatory.

Mother Teresa ate food, like Hitler.
 
The ads are for a company named 'Temu', never heard of them myself.
Col

Temu is a company that acts as a common marketplace for - among other things - cheap clothing, cheap electronics, cosmetics, craft supplies, and a few other things. Think of them as an online version of a department store catalog with products under many brand names. Their primary sellers (participating companies within that marketplace) are in China though they have a few other non-Chinese members. I don't see their ads on the forum but I see them all the time on the Yahoo News site.
 
It is slur by association. But let's test this...

Biden was a man, like Hitler.
Biden had a dog, like Hitler.
Biden was a politician, like Hitler.
Biden was a ruler, like Hitler.
Biden used race in his speeches, like Hitler.

Biden has a lot in common with Hitler, yet to say Biden is like a Nazi is just defamatory.

Mother Teresa ate food, like Hitler.

So in those cases you're doing what I'm describing, only the 'partial' in the phrase 'partial comparison' happens to be very, very slight.
In @Thales750 cases, he at least feels that the comparison in how Hitler slowly integrated his views into the German people via communication methods and how Trump uses communication and speech methods isn't so slight. It's an issue that can have reasonable people on both sides.

And by the way, TONS of conservatives compared covid restrictions to the Holocaust - it was as common as anything to hear.
 

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