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[nomorehype]

I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm ashamed to be American.

Well you bloody well should be

After all, I didn't do anything to be American, I was just born here. Why should I feel personally ashamed for the actions of people whom I cannot control?

Well the same could be said of us - we didnt choose to be born British but it hasnt stopped us being ashamed of it

I am, however, disgusted by the behavior of many of my countrymen...

You mean in foreign policy, the kids who burn rubber outside your house at night, the guy up the road running a brothel, or what?

As far as shame goes, the only thing I personally feel a sense of shame about is my own failure to be less wasteful.

Ah, you drive a Suburban too then?

 

[Kraj]

Lol you people are just too much fun. Whine on and on about this ignorant Brit throwing insults, and in the process you insult him. Can anyone spell hypocrite?

Yes. M-I-R-R-O-R.

Well the same could be said of us - we didnt choose to be born British but it hasnt stopped us being ashamed of it

Well, frankly I think such an additude is stupid. The people and their country are closely tied, but they are not one and the same.

You mean in foreign policy, the kids who burn rubber outside your house at night, the guy up the road running a brothel, or what?

Does it matter? I mean it in a lot of different ways. I don't see how naming specifics beyond what I already did is relevant.

Ah, you drive a Suburban too then?

No, actually I don't own a vehicle.

 

[nomorehype]

Yes. M-I-R-R-O-R.

Heh, nice try but no cigar. Ive not complained about being insulted - the yanks have. Cant have it both ways old son, you either insult and be damned, or you stay out and claim the high ground.

Well, frankly I think such an additude is stupid. The people and their country are closely tied, but they are not one and the same.

Presuming you meant attitude, I beg to differ. When you see on the tube that yet another Afghan family has been wiped out by a US plane, you should feel ashamed that it was done 'in your name'.

Does it matter? I mean it in a lot of different ways. I don't see how naming specifics beyond what I already did is relevant.

Please yourself, I was simply enquiring what you meant.

No, actually I don't own a vehicle.

That was irony, sorry for not putting it in [irony] tags for your benefit

 

[Rich]

When you see on the tube that yet another Afghan family has been wiped out by a US plane, you should feel ashamed that it was done 'in your name'.

Don't be so daft, they've bombed their way around the world since the end of WW11
even more so when the Republicans are in charge

 

[MrsGorilla]

Heh, nice try but no cigar. Ive not complained about being insulted - the yanks have. Cant have it both ways old son, you either insult and be damned, or you stay out and claim the high ground.

I believe I was the one who "complained" on the behalf of other members. I also said I thought you might be a crackpot, but after that post we ended up having a reasonable discussion.

That's not to say I approve of what Ken said either. (Tsk tsk Ken, just because Selena's not here doesn't mean you or Col or Rich can act up. )

I don't have any problem with the discussion or the debate, but I tend to get fed up with the name-calling which is usually when I just ignore a thread. Sometimes, however, I'm just "in a mood" and I speak up.

 

[Rich]

That's not to say I approve of what Ken said either. (Tsk tsk Ken, just because Selena's not here doesn't mean you or Col or Rich can act up. )

I should just like to point out that both Colin and I have, and always do, behave as perfect gentlemen

 

[MrsGorilla]

I should just like to point out that both Colin and I have, and always do, behave as perfect gentlemen

Of course. Ah, well. I'm not the "official" peacekeeper here anyway. Selena won't be gone forever and you'll have to face her wrath when she returns. IF you misbehave, that is.

 

[nomorehype]

... but after that post we ended up having a reasonable discussion.

Shhhhhh! Have you any idea how hard it was to build this reputation?!

 

[MrsGorilla]

Shhhhhh! Have you any idea how hard it was to build this reputation?!

Probably not too difficult.

 

[KenHigg]

Lol you people are just too much fun.

It's actually kind of sad to know people like you shed a bad light on your country. Even some of them have ask you to lighten up,,,

Whine on and on about this ignorant Brit throwing insults, and in the process you insult him.

'ignorant Brit' Closest thing you've said to the truth yet... In my humble opinion

Can anyone spell hypocrite?

Yes - 'N' 'O' 'M' 'O' 'R' 'E' 'H' 'H' 'Y' 'P'

 

[KenHigg]

That's not to say I approve of what Ken said either. (Tsk tsk Ken, just because Selena's not here doesn't mean you or Col or Rich can act up. )

I just thought I take it down to his level and see if he'd get the point, sorry

Are you going to gig him on name calling?

 

[Kraj]

Cant have it both ways old son, you either insult and be damned, or you stay out and claim the high ground.

Sure we can. Here's how this works:

1.) You insult people.
2.) We take umbrage to being insulted and voice a complaint.
3.) You offer no apologies and continue to insult.
4.) You now become fair game. You are not a respectful person, therefore we have no incentive to treat you with respect. You see, the root issue is not about insults it's about being respectful.

Presuming you meant attitude

Yes, one of my more common typo habits. I commend your extraordinary powers of comprehension despite minor spelling errors.

I beg to differ. When you see on the tube that yet another Afghan family has been wiped out by a US plane, you should feel ashamed that it was done 'in your name'.

Perhaps you might explain the rationale behind your position instead of restating it with emotional appeal?

That was irony, sorry for not putting it in [irony] tags for your benefit

Actually, it wasn't irony. You were making a direct connection between SUVs and wastefulness and making a facetious suggestion that because I admit to being wasteful I probably drive an SUV. This is not an outrageous suggestion and could have easily been true. Considering that the definition of irony is communicating an intended meaning which is opposite of the literal meaning, your statement does not even come close to anything that could be considered irony. It was playful or facetious at best, snide at wost.

 

[MrsGorilla]

Yes - 'N' 'O' 'M' 'O' 'R' 'E' 'H' 'H' 'Y' 'P'

You've misspelt it.

So I guess you're really NOT referring to nomorehype.

 

[nomorehype]

It's actually kind of sad to know people like you shed a bad light on your country.

Like 'Merkin soldiers in Iraq?

'ignorant Brit' Closest thing you've said to the truth yet... In my humble opinion

Opinions are like a$$holes - everyone has one. Or in your case, are one
Okay, your turn again! If you aint okay with being insulted, dont insult others.

Yes - 'N' 'O' 'M' 'O' 'R' 'E' 'H' 'H' 'Y' 'P'

typical yank illiteracy...

 

[KenHigg]

You've misspelt it.

So I guess you're really NOT referring to nomorehype.

Guess you've got me on a technical...

Can I withdraw my apology then

 

[KenHigg]

If you aint okay with being insulted, dont insult others.

Ok.

Are you going to play by the same rules?

 

[MrsGorilla]

I just thought I take it down to his level and see if he'd get the point, sorry

Are you going to gig him on name calling?

I gigged him in this post about being condescending and slinging insults/names. So I had to bring you to task as well in all fairness.

I'm not a very good peacekeeper though, so I guess if you want to duke it out then go ahead.

 

[KenHigg]

I gigged him in this post about being condescending and slinging insults/names. So I had to bring you to task as well in all fairness.

I'm not a very good peacekeeper though, so I guess if you want to duke it out then go ahead.

Not much to his stuff as I see it. Not worth the effort. I'll try to behave

 

[nomorehype]

Sure we can. Here's how this works:

1.) You insult people.
2.) We take umbrage to being insulted and voice a complaint.
3.) You offer no apologies and continue to insult.
4.) You now become fair game.

Hmm, okay. More 'rules' dreamed up on the spot. Well okay, lets see how much fun the game is:

I don't care what a jack-ass like you says

Ouch! Foul! I invoke clause 2 of the Kraj rules on insults!

ignorant Brit

Eh? Where's my apology?
Pssst, Kraj. How long does he get before you invoke clause 4? C'mon, tell me, please!

Perhaps you might explain the rationale behind your position instead of restating it with emotional appeal?

Kraj, if you genuinely dont understand why you should feel guilty at deaths caused by American servicemen, then theres no point in me explaining it to you.

Actually, it wasn't irony. You were making a direct connection between SUVs and wastefulness and making a facetious suggestion that because I admit to being wasteful I probably drive an SUV. This is not an outrageous suggestion and could have easily been true...

So whats the problem then?

 

[nomorehype]

Ok.

Are you going to play by the same rules?

I already do. I dont have a problem being insulted. I only have a problem with people who complain about being insulted while insulting those they're complaining about. Given the thick skin, that leaves me licence to insult. Is this too complicated for you?