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[KenHigg]

Nah, I think I get it. Thanks.

 

[nomorehype]

Nah, I think I get it. Thanks.

Excellent. With a bit of luck we can move on now. Okay, whats your stance on the SUV issue we were discussing a couple of pages back? Or pick another subject, Im game.

 

[Kraj]

Eh? Where's my apology?
Pssst, Kraj. How long does he get before you invoke clause 4? C'mon, tell me, please!

Sweetheart, your very first post on these forums was an insult and you've continued in the same vein ever since. Unless you can muster up the balls to apologize for your own actions, you don't deserve the slightest bit of respect, let alone an apology. The fact that you cry about receiving the same treatment you've been dishing out since the very beggining is laughably pathetic.

Kraj, if you genuinely dont understand why you should feel guilty at deaths caused by American servicemen, then theres no point in me explaining it to you.

"Well if you don't know I'm not going to tell you", huh? That's the classic response of the person who doesn't have the faintest clue about what they're saying.

So whats the problem then?

Quite simply, that you're a pompus ass and I enjoyed pointing it out to you. If you're going to be ignorant and misuse terms, you might want to make fun of other people for being wrong since it basically means you're making fun of yourself.

But you've grown tiresome. I doubt I'll bother with you anymore. Unlike most of the other folks around here I get into little friendly spats with, you're boring.

 

[ShaneMan]

Presuming you meant attitude,

Hey Nomo, seems like I remember you getting your feathers all ruffled, a couple of weeks ago, when I pointed out that you spelled something wrong. Swelled up like some old toad and gave some speech about Americans compared to English and education. Now you turn around and do the same?
Do as I say, not as I do?

 

[ShaneMan]

After all, I didn't do anything to be American, I was just born here. Why should I feel personally ashamed for the actions of people whom I cannot control?

Well the same could be said of us - we didnt choose to be born British but it hasnt stopped us being ashamed of it

One of the first things I agree with you on. If I was born British, I would be ashamed also.

 

[Rich]

when I pointed out that you spelled something wrong. Swelled up like some old toad and gave some speech about Americans compared to English and education. Now you turn around and do the same?
Do as I say, not as I do?

That should be "spelt" by the way

 

[ColinEssex]

I should just like to point out that both Colin and I have, and always do, behave as perfect gentlemen

and I repeat what I said yesterday

Can I just say I distance myself from his comments - I never call people names and wouldn't in any way say Greg has a "tiny" mind. I agree with Cindy's comments about Greg.

I am shaking my head - stirring things up or having a little pop at Dan / Ken / Matt et al, is one thing, but being personally insulting isn't my (nor Rich's) style.

Col

 

[nomorehype]

Sweetheart, your very first post on these forums was an insult and you've continued in the same vein ever since. Unless you can muster up the balls to apologize for your own actions, you don't deserve the slightest bit of respect, let alone an apology. The fact that you cry about receiving the same treatment you've been dishing out since the very beggining is laughably pathetic.

Jesus Christ, you do need it spelled out dont you! I was pointing out the hypocrisy of you criticising my insults, but happily ignoring those of your compatriots (and of course your own). Im quite happy to take any flak you yanks dish out - Ive got broad shoulders and 'if you cant take the heat...' etc. But I do have to admit being slightly peeved that, by your rules of engagement as detailed in the post I replied to, Im "fair game" while others performing the same actions are apparently exempt. Feel free to twist and squirm some more, but the thread shows a two-way engagement

"Well if you don't know I'm not going to tell you", huh? That's the classic response of the person who doesn't have the faintest clue about what they're saying.

To be honest, I expected that response. I could go on now and explain the cultural differences between US and UK, and why that might contribute to being ashamed of ones country, etc. But I cant really see the point, since by your own admission you're more interested in baiting than debating.

 

[ShaneMan]

Jesus Christ, you do need it spelled out dont you! I was pointing out the hypocrisy of you criticising my insults, but happily ignoring those of your compatriots (and of course your own). Im quite happy to take any flak you yanks dish out - Ive got broad shoulders and 'if you cant take the heat...' etc. But I do have to admit being slightly peeved that, by your rules of engagement as detailed in the post I replied to, Im "fair game" while others performing the same actions are apparently exempt. Feel free to twist and squirm some more, but the thread shows a two-way engagement

Your getting your facts a little messed up, Nomo. It was me that you called the hypocrite, not Kraj.

 

[Kraj]

Don't worry Colin. If anyone is comparing you to nomorehype, it's only to point out precisely why you're so much better than he is.

 

[MrsGorilla]

That should be "spelt" by the way

Only if you use archaic UK English.

 

[Rich]

Only if you use archaic UK English.

It's the Queen's (god bless her) English and we hold title to it

 

[Kraj]

It's the Queen's (god bless her) English and we hold title to it

Wow. That gives a whole new meaning to the term "dead langauge".

 

[Matt Greatorex]

Only if you use archaic UK English.

I was educated in the UK and was taught that the two were interchangeable.

The words 'Spelled' and 'Spelt', that is, not UK and US English (there are limits to how far I'm willing to lower my standards ).

 

[Rich]

Your getting your facts a little messed up, Nomo. It was me that you called the hypocrite, not Kraj.

You do an awful lot of name calling, for a Christian, don't you?

 

[Rich]

I was educated in the UK and was taught that the two were interchangeable.

Your school wasn't close to one of the US airbases was it?
This article was actually written by an educated American, I'm impressed, though I doubt many Yanks have ever read it

http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/british.html

 

[Matt Greatorex]

Your school wasn't close to one of the US airbases was it?
This article was actually written by an educated American, I'm impressed, though I doubt many Yanks have ever read it

http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/british.html

The closest base was just under an hour's drive, funnily enough, but I never met anyone from it, so can honestly say they didn't corrupt my grammar .

Interesting article, that. Not sure I agree with all of it, though ('gotten', for example, was very commonly used, when I was growing up).

I noticed the author has the US habit of using England and Britain interchangeably (nothing new there - Laziness? Ignorance? Apathy?). Perhaps there is a regional difference that extends beyond simply slang and accents, so that some expressions that are considered 'American' are common in some places in Blighty and not in others.

 

[ColinEssex]

Your school wasn't close to one of the US airbases was it?
This article was actually written by an educated American, I'm impressed, though I doubt many Yanks have ever read it

http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/british.html

There's some great quotes in there Rich

But for some reason, many Americans are oblivious to the fact that such differences exist, and when they stumble across something written according to the British system of usage, their immediate reaction is that the writer has screwed up and needs to be corrected.
And that's not even the worst of it. There is an unfortunate tendency among Americans to adopt a hectoring tone when they take it upon themselves to correct other people's grammar or usage. I have heard that tone blamed on American chauvinism

Unfortunately, English grammar and usage are very badly taught in the U.S., even at the college level

so many businesses in the U.S. try to make themselves seem more sophisticated by pretentiously using such Britishisms in their names.

I think it confirms our thoughts about American education

Col

 

[ShaneMan]

You do an awful lot of name calling, for a Christian, don't you?

Hey Rich,

Why don't you get off me. Matt asked me, a few weeks back, "to give it a rest", so have. Now go back and read the post again. I didn't call him a hypocrite, Nomo called me one.

 

[Kraj]

My favorite quotes from it:

People trained according to British usage seldom try to correct Americans for following American rules of usage. If the differences between the two systems even come up at all, they are likely to refer to such differences in terms of a question--something along the lines of, "Is that how it is done in America?" But usually the issue doesn't even arise, because they read books, papers, and magazines printed in the United States, and they are well aware of the differences.

Someone should direct him to these forums.

I would suggest to my fellow Americans that if we feel the need to correct someone else's writing, we should first be quite certain that we know what we are talking about; and second, we should make our suggestions politely and respectfully. Even if it is the case that we are addressing a genuine error rather than merely a difference between American and British usage, there is no excuse for bullying or rudeness.

Hear that kids? Politely and respecfully.