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ColinEssex said:
They were placed on American bases by the USA despite the fact we didn't want them, hence all the protests at the time.

I guess we'll put that one down as another example of the UK doing as they are told :p
 
KenHigg said:
How about some fuel...
I'm not going to say that wasn't /very/ sobering and just as when the incident occurred I immediately think of my own son at his school. I'd applaud the man's clarity of mind to point the finger at the real villains rather than the popular choice, the NRA.
Of course the perpetrators could easily have used other weapons were guns unavailable to them, but that doesn't mean that guns are innocent. Pest control aside there is no justifiable reason why any citizen should have a gun.
 
ColinEssex said:
Rich and I do have a code of practice that we try to stick to.

I'm trying to find a reason to be thankful...:p :p :p
 
dan-cat said:
I guess we'll put that one down as another example of the UK doing as they are told :p
Seemingly so. I'd like to think the tide is turning though, and the day will come when the US ask for something and get told to naff off and solve your own damn problems. I don't think our government finds us to be the placid and accepting mob we once were :rolleyes:
 
dan-cat said:
I guess we'll put that one down as another example of the UK doing as they are told :p
or the USA once again thinking they own the bloody world:p

Ken said:
See, those Dukes of Hazard re-runs has improved your verbal dexterity
its unlikely the Dukes of Hazzard would have such a long word as one with 4 letters. They are after all good-ol'-boys like those in Georgia.:p

Col
 
ColinEssex said:
its unlikely the Dukes of Hazzard would have such a long word as one with 4 letters. They are after all good-ol'-boys like those in Georgia.:p

Col
Personally I was always too busy watching Daisy's chest heave to listen to much of the dialogue
 
There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness.

Off to a nice, rational start, then... :rolleyes:

Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc.

Absolutely right! I mean, look at how little violence has ever been perpetrated by people claiming to be acting on behalf of a given religion. The Crusades, the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland, the Klan, etc. etc. - none of it actually happened.

No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre.

I could be wrong - and I openly admit that - but I thought I heard that the kids who did the killing got their guns from people who legally owned them? I'm not suggesting for one minute that they were deliberately armed by the owners, but gun laws that stopped those people from owning them in the first place would have gone a fair way toward stopping them. The anger would still have been there, but there's only so much damage you can do with a knife or a club.

Yes, guns don't kill people, people kill people. And, yes, shooting animals makes a lot of people feel more manly. Not arguing with either of those points. However, if logically extended, why not allow people to own bombs? Both are created purely to kill, both could just be for defence, and both could be used quite effectively to kill animals.

As far as the line I keep seeing quoted in various articles about how more people die from car related injuries than from being shot is concerned, I would point out that cars aren't specifically intended to kill things. It happens, yes, but rarely intentionally. That's exactly what guns are meant to do.

I'm not getting into the whole "It's my right to own one" argument, I'm simply pointing out the connection between allowing legalised guns and an increase in the number of innocent people being shot. I forget the exact wording, but to paraphrase Bill Hicks:

"There is absolutely no connection being having a gun and shooting someone and not having a gun and not shooting someone - and you'd be a fool and a communist to make one"

To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA -- I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!

Probably just me being dull, but what is he talking about here? Examine your heart for what? :confused:
 
Matt Greatorex said:
... if logically extended, why not allow people to own bombs? Both are created purely to kill, both could just be for defence, and both could be used quite effectively to kill animals.
but you're not going to find enough to cut into a steak if you blow it up!:eek: :eek: Think, Man, Think!:D
 
nomorehype said:
Pest control aside there is no justifiable reason why any citizen should have a gun.

Oh dear... I'm getting faint headed:(
 
Bodisathva said:
but you're not going to find enough to cut into a steak if you blow it up!:eek: :eek: Think, Man, Think!:D

Okey-dokey, boss. What about bovine-specific nerve gas, then?:D
 
Matt Greatorex said:
Okey-dokey, boss. What about bovine-specific nerve gas, then?:D
but den wot 'bout squrlz, deers, 'possums, ground hogs, turkeys, rabbits...how we gets ta eat dem?:confused::confused::confused: :D
 
Bodisathva said:
but den wot 'bout squrlz, deers, 'possums, ground hogs, turkeys, rabbits...how we gets ta eat dem?:confused::confused::confused: :D

Drive 'em down through Ga. and I'll pick 'em off one at a time...:D
 
KenHigg said:
Drive 'em down through Ga. and I'll pick 'em off one at a time...:D
While I was playing upon the inevitable redneck joke coming off that, I'm not picking on you Ken...I must admit to having hunted and eaten everything on that list...plus some.:D
 
Bodisathva said:
While I was playing upon the inevitable redneck joke coming off that, I'm not picking on you Ken...I must admit to having hunted and eaten everything on that list...plus some.:D
But do they all taste like chicken? :eek:
 
Bodisathva said:
While I was playing upon the inevitable redneck joke coming off that, I'm not picking on you Ken...I must admit to having hunted and eaten everything on that list...plus some.:D

Do you deer hunt still?
 
KenHigg said:
Do you deer hunt still?
Absolutely. Better for you than beef. Much, much, cheaper. And let's not forget, it gives me the opportunity to spend time out in the woods, away from all of the idjits:D . My Grandfather taught me when I was very young, so for me, it's almost like I still get to spend that time with him.
 
Matt Greatorex said:
No, darling, do you?

(sorry, couldn't resist and, yes, I know it was more of a verbal gag):D

That was as bad as some of Ricky's stuff...:rolleyes:
 
KenHigg said:
Do you deer hunt still?
That's not very 'sporting' if its stood still, is it? Couldn't you at least give it a running start?
 

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