Where do you stand politically? (2 Viewers)

[Steve R.]

What does liberally conservative mean?

It is a real term, albeit difficult to parse.

Liberal conservatism - Wikipedia

Liberal conservatism is a political ideology combining conservative policies with liberal stances, especially on economic, social and ethical issues,[1] or a brand of political conservatism strongly influenced by liberalism.

"Liberal conservatism incorporates the classical liberal view of minimal government intervention in the economy, according to which individuals should be free to participate in the market and generate wealth without government interference.[2] However, liberal conservatism also holds that individuals cannot be thoroughly depended on to act responsibly in other spheres of life, therefore liberal conservatives believe that a strong state is necessary to ensure law and order and social institutions are needed to nurture a sense of duty and responsibility to the nation.[2] They also support civil liberties, along with some social conservative positions. In Europe, liberal conservatism is the dominant form of contemporary conservatism and centre-right politics."

As a possible example, I would suggest reading/listening to Alan Dershowitz's defense of Donald Trump from the flawed attacks of the Democrats. I don't know if Dershowitz would or would not place himself in the category of "liberal conservatism", but his arguments, in defense of Trump, appear close to the concept of "liberal conservatism".

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I tend to be a Libertarian but NOT an Anarchistic Libertarian. Thomas Jefferson is often attributed as saying "That government is best which governs least." (There is some considerable debate as to whether Henry David Thoreau said it first.) Regardless of its origin, I agree with the general idea. As a Libertarian Rational, I recognize that laws are needed because of too many folks who want to "game" the system. But the less intrusive the government, the more likely we are to have a better life experience.

A Libertarian doesn't believe in Political Correctness. There must be truth first. If you can then somehow manage to state that truth gently, well and good. But truth first. And there is where politics suddenly sounds like a Jack Nicholson quote from A Few Good Men. Politicians think we can't handle the truth. More likely, THEY can't handle the aftermath of us learning the truth. Which might include their loss in the next election.

 

[Pat Hartman]

In the US, the progressives have invaded both major parties. The progressives are all about government being the solution to every problem. Their mantra is "there auta' be a law". That's why we keep creating new federal bureaucracies. The Space Force being the latest. So, Trump is not immune from this. Government create the housing crisis by forcing Fanny and Freddie to buy low quality loans. They created the college debt crisis by nationalizing the student loan industry and never putting any qualifications on what they would loan for so "basket weaving" for someone with no hands was a fine goal. Let's give them a loan because they are nice kids and besides, there is a huge job market for people who weave baskets with their feet.

 

[Jon]

This video made me chuckle!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1225553117929988097

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Even if DJT is only talking about a drop of only a few tenths of a percent for some of those all-time low marks, a tenth of a percent might represent well over 10,000 people who aren't quite so bad off as they were previously. And given what they had to endure, the Tuskegee Airmen deserve every iota of praise for bravery and devotion to an ideal. They were treated like crap and came out with a record that most fighter pilots would cry about - having never lost a bomber to enemy fighters when they were escorting.

I believe it was one of the Tuskegee Airmen who was the first fighter pilot to shoot down the Me-262 fighter jet that was deployed late in the war. Many of them went on to fly missions for Korea and to serve their country in the military as a career. Nancy's total disrespect shows her total lack of character. Hope some of her US veteran constituents were watching.

 

[Steve R.]

Government create the housing crisis by forcing Fanny and Freddie to buy low quality loans. They created the college debt crisis by nationalizing the student loan industry and never putting any qualifications on what they would loan for so "basket weaving" for someone with no hands was a fine goal. Let's give them a loan because they are nice kids and besides, there is a huge job market for people who weave baskets with their feet.

The government created these "crises" for the express purpose of eventually proposing government "solutions".

Currently, we are seeing, in the media, all the predictable sob stories of a massive number of people drowning in student debt. So whoever "originated'" this student loan scam is now holding those suffering from this scam as pawns to entice the government to "save" these people from the very problem that they purposely created.

As an aside; other government backed loan programs have also had spectacular failures, such as Solyndra, leaving the taxpayer to foot the bills. To conclude, virtually all government backed loan programs need to be eliminated. Let the private sector take the financial risks. For students, that means that the colleges and the banks should take the financial risk related to funding students attending college.

 

[vba_php]

I tend to be a Libertarian but NOT an Anarchistic Libertarian. Thomas Jefferson is often attributed as saying "That government is best which governs least." (There is some considerable debate as to whether Henry David Thoreau said it first.) Regardless of its origin, I agree with the general idea. As a Libertarian Rational, I recognize that laws are needed because of too many folks who want to "game" the system. But the less intrusive the government, the more likely we are to have a better life experience.

A Libertarian doesn't believe in Political Correctness. There must be truth first. If you can then somehow manage to state that truth gently, well and good. But truth first. And there is where politics suddenly sounds like a Jack Nicholson quote from A Few Good Men. Politicians think we can't handle the truth. More likely, THEY can't handle the aftermath of us learning the truth. Which might include their loss in the next election.

I'm noticing that NG likes almost every post of your Richard. You 2 guys must have a lot in common. Probably the biggest commonality I would say is a disdain for someone like me, huh?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Probably the biggest commonality I would say is a disdain for someone like me, huh?

Adam, just because you aren't paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you.

 

[vba_php]

Adam, just because you aren't paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you.

you guys ARE out to get me!? oh my goodness! why would you join the United State's government in their pursuit of me too? you would think they'd be good enough to track me down on their own! by the way Richard, those damn clicking sounds on every phone call I make have now gotten worse, and now recently it has changed to both beeps and clicks. and they happen quite frequently in rapid succession. like 5-10 beep/click sounds rapid fire 1 minute, then 4 minutes pause, repeat, pause, repeat. oddly enough, they only seem to happen during phone calls to select organizations like goDaddy, prospective employers, recruiters, and some medical organizations. I never hear it on any other call. it got so bad today during a phone interview that the IT manager actually told me my voice cut out during an entire sentence. so these assholes are getting to be a problem that's hindering my ability to work effectively. but then again, let us not forget that I still think this all started when that stupid goDaddy agent put me on speakerphone last month when I started asking deep level security questions regarding an anti-criminal website I was thinking of putting together....

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Ah, you are getting up in the world. Probably now you have at least six of the eight major surveillance organizations out to get you and the overlapping clicking is because they are in-fighting over who gets to pick the carcass clean.

 

[vba_php]

Ah, you are getting up in the world. Probably now you have at least six of the eight major surveillance organizations out to get you and the overlapping clicking is because they are in-fighting over who gets to pick the carcass clean.

why the hell would any government entity be interested in me richard? i'm a nobody in this world. there are plenty of people out there, corporate people, government people, and even a lot of people on this very board that think I know absolutely nothing. so with that, I say again, why would they care about me?

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Probably related to asking questions you shouldn't have asked, which labels you as a trouble-maker.

I still think this all started when that stupid goDaddy agent put me on speakerphone last month when I started asking deep level security questions regarding an anti-criminal website I was thinking of putting togeth

 

[vba_php]

Probably related to asking questions you shouldn't have asked, which labels you as a trouble-maker.

there's no doubt in my mind that's exactly why they are tapping me. it's of the utmost importance every day, i'm sure, for the USA government to keep the public in the dark about the black ops and secrets they hold. perhaps area 51 is still in existence? I don't know, I've never been to nevada.

 

[Jon]

Area 51 is the real deal. I've seen the plastic alien on the telly.

 

[moke123]

you guys ARE out to get me!? oh my goodness! why would you join the United State's government in their pursuit of me too? you would think they'd be good enough to track me down on their own! by the way Richard, those damn clicking sounds on every phone call I make have now gotten worse, and now recently it has changed to both beeps and clicks. and they happen quite frequently in rapid succession. like 5-10 beep/click sounds rapid fire 1 minute, then 4 minutes pause, repeat, pause, repeat. oddly enough, they only seem to happen during phone calls to select organizations like goDaddy, prospective employers, recruiters, and some medical organizations. I never hear it on any other call. it got so bad today during a phone interview that the IT manager actually told me my voice cut out during an entire sentence. so these assholes are getting to be a problem that's hindering my ability to work effectively. but then again, let us not forget that I still think this all started when that stupid goDaddy agent put me on speakerphone last month when I started asking deep level security questions regarding an anti-criminal website I was thinking of putting together....

Sounds like a stingray intercept. Google it.
Notice any dark cars or vans outside?

 

[vba_php]

I don't believe you.... =) I've got the unsolved mysteries tv show dvd with robert stack's famous ghostly voice narrating the stories about IT and the roswell incident back in the day. then of course, there are always other stories:

=> England's encounter
=> Missing time abduction 1
=> the allagash indicent
=> The mystery of the good old bermuda triangle

 

[vba_php]

Sounds like a stingray intercept. Google it.
Notice any dark cars or vans outside?

hey thanks man. that's pretty good info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker

and no, there have never been any dark vehicles outside. the mutli-clicking just started yesterday. before that they were very intermittent.

 

[NauticalGent]

Moke123 and Doc...be careful. I'll send you both a PM. Doc, I still have your secure email so I'll send the unredacted version to you there.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

NG, I no longer have a Navy secured e-mail. I'm retired now and can't access that account. My access card and certificate have expired.

 

[vba_php]

NG, I no longer have a Navy secured e-mail. I'm retired now and can't access that account. My access card and certificate have expired.

well then you certainly don't want to give a dangerous man like me your email richard!