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Isaac

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Cant think of any time in my life where I have ever used them.

LOL You make a good point.
Only in personal discussions, 4 me.
But I am sure in scientific community research and works of writing and articles it comes up

Especially for anyone who believes the earth is millions of years old lol
 

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Us Heathens, I guess.

I don't believe you are a heathen, moke.
I think you just enjoy playing devil's advocate to stoke amusement.
I bet you prayed yesterday!
 

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Everywhere. From October to December in the UK, the word 'xmas' is in newspapers, on TV adverts, in shops like 'big Xmas sale!' Etc etc. The word 'Christmas ' is too long to fit on posters or in adverts, so 'Xmas ' is commonplace in the UK. Always has been, its nothing new. Anyway, Xmas is a pagan festival, not a religious one.
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Changing the names of the two periods, is the first step to erasing Him.
I hadn't considered that.

I think the idea comes from Marxism. "Eradicate society's beliefs and norms" then replace them with what we see now. The Road to Hell.
 

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It's really very subtle. It's such a little thing, maybe no one will notice. I don't know how long it has been going on. I just came across it a year or so go when I was reading a historical article where I had to figure out what BCE meant. They are erasing mother and father. Even the home decorating shows are on the bandwagon. It is no longer the "master bedroom", it is now the "primary bedroom".
 

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Everywhere. From October to December in the UK, the word 'xmas' is in newspapers, on TV adverts, in shops like 'big Xmas sale!' Etc etc. The word 'Christmas ' is too long to fit on posters or in adverts, so 'Xmas ' is commonplace in the UK. Always has been, its nothing new. Anyway, Xmas is a pagan festival, not a religious one.
Col

In this article the prime minister uses the word Christmas just like anyone would


“I am really sad and I am disappointed about the disruption that is being caused to so many people’s lives, particularly at Christmas time,”
 

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In this article the prime minister uses the word Christmas just like anyone would

Yes 'Christmas ' is used very often, as in 'Christmas card / present / tree / dinner' etc. It's perfectly normal to use it. "Xmas" I would say is for more commercial use as I stated earlier.
Most people in the UK call it 'an over commercialised expensive rip off'
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It's going to get worse, before it gets better!

 

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Well said.

Why have we let a noisy self absorbed minority
1) pretend it's "hatred" to disagree
2) pretend it's "phobia" to disagree
3) pretend it's normal to be forced to have discussions at work and in professional or social settings about what kind of sex a person likes to have???

A few years ago, we were all taking compliance training courses making sure we knew the fairly obvious principle that in the workplace, sex discussions simply have no place.
Fast forward a few more years, and we're all supposed to pretend it's normal that certain people, but only certain ones, must loudly proclaim (and we must all join in) their label which does nothing except denote who they are sexually attracted to.

I don't run around my neighborhood breathlessly telling everyone I find "I like to have sex with women! I like to have sex with women!"
Nor do I wear a t-shirt or fly a flag that essentially says the same thing.

If we allow ourselves to be fooled into agreeing that doing such a thing is totally normal , the joke is on us!

Stand up for sanity
 

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Douglas Murray - if we ignore the little lies then we get the big lies....

 

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Personally I don't see any problem with Xmas. Everyone who sees the abbreviation knows what it refers to. They see Xmas and think Christmas. Apart from that there's less to type, which is never a bad thing.
 

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for the record, I don't have a serious 'problem' with other people doing it, EXCEPT when I find out or can sort of tell, that it's the result of them believing that they "have to".

that's all. I have nothing against those who are non-religious deciding they'd rather call it [anything]-mas.

But I'll admit I do feel kind of sad when I see 1) people feeling that they are no longer allowed to say Christmas, and 2) major organizations and institutions doing it - like for example if I worked for a huge company, and instead of Christmas Party, they said Winter Party, I'll admit that feels a bit sad to me.

It's almost like........Ok, forget about religions for a moment, yours mine and the dogs. Just the tradition of it being drastically changed is sad.

Universities in the USA used to all have Fall (or Thanksgiving) Break, Christmas Break, and many even used to say Easter Break.
(the 1st and 3rd I can see the reason for not doing, as the dates barely coincide if that).

But most now say Winter Intersession or Winter Break instead of Christmas (or even Xmas) break. That feels like a bit sad fading away of a decent tradition.
 

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for the record, I don't have a serious 'problem' with other people doing it, EXCEPT when I find out or can sort of tell, that it's the result of them believing that they "have to".

that's all. I have nothing against those who are non-religious deciding they'd rather call it [anything]-mas.

But I'll admit I do feel kind of sad when I see 1) people feeling that they are no longer allowed to say Christmas, and 2) major organizations and institutions doing it - like for example if I worked for a huge company, and instead of Christmas Party, they said Winter Party, I'll admit that feels a bit sad to me.

It's almost like........Ok, forget about religions for a moment, yours mine and the dogs. Just the tradition of it being drastically changed is sad.

Universities in the USA used to all have Fall (or Thanksgiving) Break, Christmas Break, and many even used to say Easter Break.
(the 1st and 3rd I can see the reason for not doing, as the dates barely coincide if that).

But most now say Winter Intersession or Winter Break instead of Christmas (or even Xmas) break. That feels like a bit sad fading away of a decent tradition.
Yet the same companies have no problem with the Christmas in July sales.
 

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To be honest, who cares what it is called? People with sad lonely lives need to get out more and worry about the important things in life.
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To be honest, who cares what it is called? People with sad lonely lives need to get out more and worry about the important things in life.
Col
Funny I see it just the opposite. The people who have nothing better to do but to go around trying to BAN us from saying certain words because they're too scroogey to enjoy their tradition, that seems very sad to me. I'm sorry they have no family to enjoy these holidays with and thus want to make sure no one does
 

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