Are you ALL awake?

[ColinEssex]

Where??

Everywhere. From October to December in the UK, the word 'xmas' is in newspapers, on TV adverts, in shops like 'big Xmas sale!' Etc etc. The word 'Christmas ' is too long to fit on posters or in adverts, so 'Xmas ' is commonplace in the UK. Always has been, its nothing new. Anyway, Xmas is a pagan festival, not a religious one.
Col

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Changing the names of the two periods, is the first step to erasing Him.

I hadn't considered that.

I think the idea comes from Marxism. "Eradicate society's beliefs and norms" then replace them with what we see now. The Road to Hell.

 

[Isaac]

Everywhere. From October to December in the UK, the word 'xmas' is in newspapers, on TV adverts, in shops like 'big Xmas sale!' Etc etc. The word 'Christmas ' is too long to fit on posters or in adverts, so 'Xmas ' is commonplace in the UK. Always has been, its nothing new. Anyway, Xmas is a pagan festival, not a religious one.
Col

In this article the prime minister uses the word Christmas just like anyone would

Strikes over pay disrupt Christmas travel in UK, France

Air travelers are facing possible delays at U.K. airports as government employees who check passports go on strike.

apnews.com

“I am really sad and I am disappointed about the disruption that is being caused to so many people’s lives, particularly at Christmas time,”

 

[ColinEssex]

In this article the prime minister uses the word Christmas just like anyone would

Strikes over pay disrupt Christmas travel in UK, France

Air travelers are facing possible delays at U.K. airports as government employees who check passports go on strike.

apnews.com

Yes 'Christmas ' is used very often, as in 'Christmas card / present / tree / dinner' etc. It's perfectly normal to use it. "Xmas" I would say is for more commercial use as I stated earlier.
Most people in the UK call it 'an over commercialised expensive rip off'
Col

 

[Isaac]

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

It's going to get worse, before it gets better!

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtube.com

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

I wish I'd written this :-

https://twitter.com/x/status/1666877650667700242

I like the concept of a rainbow barf!

 

[Isaac]

Well said.

Why have we let a noisy self absorbed minority
1) pretend it's "hatred" to disagree
2) pretend it's "phobia" to disagree
3) pretend it's normal to be forced to have discussions at work and in professional or social settings about what kind of sex a person likes to have???

A few years ago, we were all taking compliance training courses making sure we knew the fairly obvious principle that in the workplace, sex discussions simply have no place.
Fast forward a few more years, and we're all supposed to pretend it's normal that certain people, but only certain ones, must loudly proclaim (and we must all join in) their label which does nothing except denote who they are sexually attracted to.

I don't run around my neighborhood breathlessly telling everyone I find "I like to have sex with women! I like to have sex with women!"
Nor do I wear a t-shirt or fly a flag that essentially says the same thing.

If we allow ourselves to be fooled into agreeing that doing such a thing is totally normal , the joke is on us!

Stand up for sanity

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Douglas Murray - if we ignore the little lies then we get the big lies....

 

[Cotswold]

Personally I don't see any problem with Xmas. Everyone who sees the abbreviation knows what it refers to. They see Xmas and think Christmas. Apart from that there's less to type, which is never a bad thing.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Personally I don't see any problem with Xmas

Some have an issue with replacing "Christ" with an "X"

 

[Isaac]

for the record, I don't have a serious 'problem' with other people doing it, EXCEPT when I find out or can sort of tell, that it's the result of them believing that they "have to".

that's all. I have nothing against those who are non-religious deciding they'd rather call it [anything]-mas.

But I'll admit I do feel kind of sad when I see 1) people feeling that they are no longer allowed to say Christmas, and 2) major organizations and institutions doing it - like for example if I worked for a huge company, and instead of Christmas Party, they said Winter Party, I'll admit that feels a bit sad to me.

It's almost like........Ok, forget about religions for a moment, yours mine and the dogs. Just the tradition of it being drastically changed is sad.

Universities in the USA used to all have Fall (or Thanksgiving) Break, Christmas Break, and many even used to say Easter Break.
(the 1st and 3rd I can see the reason for not doing, as the dates barely coincide if that).

But most now say Winter Intersession or Winter Break instead of Christmas (or even Xmas) break. That feels like a bit sad fading away of a decent tradition.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

for the record, I don't have a serious 'problem' with other people doing it, EXCEPT when I find out or can sort of tell, that it's the result of them believing that they "have to".

that's all. I have nothing against those who are non-religious deciding they'd rather call it [anything]-mas.

But I'll admit I do feel kind of sad when I see 1) people feeling that they are no longer allowed to say Christmas, and 2) major organizations and institutions doing it - like for example if I worked for a huge company, and instead of Christmas Party, they said Winter Party, I'll admit that feels a bit sad to me.

It's almost like........Ok, forget about religions for a moment, yours mine and the dogs. Just the tradition of it being drastically changed is sad.

Universities in the USA used to all have Fall (or Thanksgiving) Break, Christmas Break, and many even used to say Easter Break.
(the 1st and 3rd I can see the reason for not doing, as the dates barely coincide if that).

But most now say Winter Intersession or Winter Break instead of Christmas (or even Xmas) break. That feels like a bit sad fading away of a decent tradition.

Yet the same companies have no problem with the Christmas in July sales.

 

[ColinEssex]

To be honest, who cares what it is called? People with sad lonely lives need to get out more and worry about the important things in life.
Col

 

[Isaac]

To be honest, who cares what it is called? People with sad lonely lives need to get out more and worry about the important things in life.
Col

Funny I see it just the opposite. The people who have nothing better to do but to go around trying to BAN us from saying certain words because they're too scroogey to enjoy their tradition, that seems very sad to me. I'm sorry they have no family to enjoy these holidays with and thus want to make sure no one does

 

[AccessBlaster]

https://cdn.videy.co/XaEgMRdV.mp4

 

[ColinEssex]

Funny I see it just the opposite. The people who have nothing better to do but to go around trying to BAN us from saying certain words because they're too scroogey to enjoy their tradition, that seems very sad to me. I'm sorry they have no family to enjoy these holidays with and thus want to make sure no one does

What I'm saying, and I agree mostly with you, is call it whatever you like - it's called 'Christmas', great - it's called 'Xmas', great, its called 'a pain in the ass', great. Does the man on the street care? No. They're worried about the mortgage, car payments, food increases, war, killing, murder, trying to stop your kids from smashing up Congress.
Col

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Why have we let a noisy self absorbed minority
1) pretend it's "hatred" to disagree
2) pretend it's "phobia" to disagree
3) pretend it's normal to be forced to have discussions at work and in professional or social settings about what kind of sex a person likes to have???

Replace that discussion with the USA and the 1960s Civil Rights movement. In your point #3, replace the word "sex" with the word "skin." Now reconsider what you said.

 

[Isaac]

AB, please throw that link up, anywhere, every now and then just for good measure! We need to see it as much as possible

 

[Isaac]

What I'm saying, and I agree mostly with you, is call it whatever you like - it's called 'Christmas', great - it's called 'Xmas', great, its called 'a pain in the ass', great. Does the man on the street care? No. They're worried about the mortgage, car payments, food increases, war, killing, murder, trying to stop your kids from smashing up Congress.
Col

I see your point, I just think that slow, gradual, point-by-point cultural degradation actually IS a big part of what causes people to not be able ultimately to pay their mortgages, food, killing, and crime.

Of course there will always be those who say it's because the government isn't giving them quite enough free stuff yet.

All of it matters.

Let's be honest for a moment. In your country, godlessness didn't strip people of every decent moral character. There was a sense of honor and dignity and hard work that seemed to persist despite.

In our country it's not that way. The further our society gets away from the basics of faith in God and value of together-families, the worse everyone's behavior gets, and the closer we get to anarchy and an ever-increasing percentage of society just flat-out LAZY.

Ok everyone, now dissect that - I'm pretty sure some will have much to say about it! Starting with some complex reason why we must deny reality and blame it on something else - white supremacy, racism, misogyny and the like.

But it's really super simple and can be boiled down thusly in many cases:

The ever-decreasing sense of MORAL RESPONSIBILITY is instantaneously filled with human nature's quite-ready IT'S EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT/BLAME.

That's it! It really is that simple. That explains the workforce, it explains job participation, it explains reparations, it explains literally everything to do with half of society seeing through the lens of "if you want it, work for it" - and becoming totally successful by doing so, while the other half deliberately refuses to do that and then claims it is proof that working doesn't work.

A wise man once said: "It works if you work it - but work it!"