For the purpose of argument, lets assume that masks make a "big" difference. In 2019, one source said that 38,800 people died in automobile accidents. Well, if we reduce the speed that cars can drive down to 0 MPH we could "save" all those lives. The reality is that society has accepted that death rate as normal. (Of course, we still attempt to make cars and roads safer so that less people die.)I just presented articles. In my opinion the masks make a big difference.
For the purpose of argument, lets assume that masks make a "big" difference. In 2019, one source said that 38,800 people died in automobile accidents. Well, if we reduce the speed that cars can drive down to 0 MPH we could "save" all those lives. The reality is that society has accepted that death rate as normal. (Of course, we still attempt to make cars and roads safer so that less people die.)
Mask wearing has a marginal benefit. But addressing Covid-19 is not simply about wearing a mask, but innumerable other factors such social distancing, travel restrictions, and business closures. Then there are the blatant negatives with combating Covid-19 such as fear mongering, delayed medical treatments, loss of jobs, mental health, etc. At some subjective point you need to "accept" certain (even if you don't like it) death rates as "normal" to allow other activities to take place. We have, as a society, already "accepted" deaths associated with driving since driving is necessary for many of our daily activities. The same holds true for combating Covid-19.
Businesses go bankrupt everyday and people lose their jobs all the time. Shouldn't we just accept those too in favor of staying alive?
So do we have death panels?It's all a matter of balancing the competing interests, and very subjective. I don't have the answers, but yes, at some level/volume of people experiencing financial ruin, it's worth more than some level/volume of deaths. What everyone argues about is what's the right levels, and are we even accurately assessing them (probably not, it's pretty hard on the one side).
I agree, it's a continuum and nobody can authoritatively say: "my position, which lies barely to the right or left of your position, is perfect and yours is bad" , thus we debate endlessly.From the stories I heard from my parents about life during the 1930s depression, a lot of people died because of lack of money to pay for medical treatment and food. That wasn't even a pandemic and the economic hardships traumatized the country. People died because of it. Now we have a choice - die from COVID-19 or die from economic deprivation. Like Isaac, I don't know the balance point but I can easily understand the horrible frustration that people feel because of losing jobs, facing eviction, feeding hungry kids... I don't have to face those but I have met people with those problems. The only thing that i will say that I believe here is that at the moment there is absolutely no correct answer. The vaccines will change the playing field but they aren't here yet and won't be here in volume for quite a while. I believe that in the balancing act of COVID vs shutdowns, there IS no correct balance point.
Then you don't know how big a virus is and you've never read the label on the package your mask came in. FYI, none of them promise to protect you from a virus. Even the N95 mask which are the "best" don't provide "safety". You also don't know that prior to CDS (COVID derangement syndrome) the "science" on masks was that healthy people should not wear them except is certain circumstances. Here are some opinions based on the "science" pre-COVID before the Left found a crisis that they didn't want to waste.In my opinion the masks make a big difference.
You are assuming that we are immortal. NEWS flash, we're not. Because of the fallacious assertion that we must stop everyone from contracting COVID, our government is destroying personal property and health and bankrupting a large segment of the population and putting the rest of us in a hole we can never dig out of. Companies favored by the Dems, are rolling in dough and want the lockdowns to continue forever. It is really good for big tech and companies like Amazon and the big box stores. The government is doing what Walmart failed to do in many communities no matter how hard they tried. The government is destroying the small business backbone of this country. I'm pretty sure as you make these smug posts, that you are collecting a salary or possibly a taxpayer paid pension. Otherwise, you would be far more concerned about the economy instead of potentially a few more deaths. You don't even know that the current lockdowns are preventing deaths. It is unknowable since there is no control. The "control" we have is the different approaches taken by different states and countries. Lockdowns do not save more lives from COVID deaths than they cause for other reasons. That is what the numbers are showing. Just compare NY and FL.Businesses go bankrupt everyday and people lose their jobs all the time. Shouldn't we just accept those too in favor of staying alive?