Foreigners might have the best tech talent (speaking of white supremacy!) (1 Viewer)

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To any of the ethnic groups reading this, I apologize on behalf of vba_php. I truly believe he has no idea how idiotic his statements are or how they spew the very prejudice he claims to speak against.

If he is aware and is just using a false naivete to cover his bigotry, then please keep in mind he does not speak for AWF or the rest of us...take it for what's it's worth and govern yourselves accordingly.
 

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that makes me sad, Colin. how was that last post demeaning to older folks? it doesn't even read that way....
To any of the ethnic groups reading this, I apologize on behalf of vba_php. I truly believe he has no idea how idiotic his statements are or how they spew the very prejudice he claims to speak against.

If he is aware and is just using a false naivete to cover his bigotry, then please keep in mind he does not speak for AWF or the rest of us...take it for what's it's worth and govern yourselves accordingly.
maybe we should just delete it then, right NG? I always can. not many people have had the opportunity to read it anyway....(bigotry?) => interesting....many christians are called that, but usually its the hateful ones that garner that attention. am I looked upon as a hatred-based person?
 

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I asked for a Dislike button to be added just so I could express my utter dislike for almost everything Adam has written in this thread.
If anyone else feels the same, click on the Like button and choose one of the various alternatives
 

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Maybe if you stopped dismissing the thoughts of people who give you the negative reactions as the rantings of old geezers and recognize that with those extra years sometimes comes more experience and maturity? Maybe recognize that they're trying to point out why you keep getting banned from forums and help you better yourself? Nah, what do I know, I'm just an old geezer.
 

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Maybe recognize that they're trying to point out why you keep getting banned from forums and help you better yourself? Nah, what do I know, I'm just an old geezer.
I've only been banned from 2 out of 32 (or approx that). Not a bad statistic actually! but then again, I'm an in-person type guy, not an internet dweller. and no Paul, I learn quite a lot from "old geezers". Richard has taught me quite a lot around here. the only one that beats his wisdow is the senior-level monk in dubuque.
 

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Your views are demeaning to a wide variety of people. You show a lack of Christian charity in your views, have a problem with 'older people' , have zero empathy for others and it seems have a no understanding as to why so many people object to your comments.
 

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Your views are demeaning to a wide variety of people. You show a lack of Christian charity in your views, have a problem with 'older people' , have zero empathy for others and it seems have a no understanding as to why so many people object to your comments.
would you recommend that I disappear for a while at my own will, Colin?
 

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I certainly would. From the other responses in this thread, I believe a lot of us feel the same way.
 

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For the record, I don't particularly want you to go. In a very abstract way, you bring some life to this forum. You really should dial down the wide-eyed school boy routine and actually try to engage those who tolerate you with a mutual respect. You may surprise yourself...
 
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You really should dial down the wide-eyed school boy routine
I don't have any formal training in software development. what does "school boy" mean? I don't get it. is that Italian slang, or a reference to my bachelor's degree? excuse my cultural ignorance on this one, NG.
 

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I don't have any formal training in software development. what does "school boy" mean? I don't get it. is that Italian slang, or a reference to my bachelor's degree? excuse my cultural ignorance on this one, NG.
Save it, not buying.
 

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I have quite great success talking to, and inspiring, college level kids in this town that want careers in technology. What a surprise, eh?

No surprise at all. They obviously haven't learned anything yet so can't tell the difference between straight shooters and bull shooters.
 

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Since you are fond of quoting scripture, I really feel you should heed these warnings. You are unwittingly driving people like The Doc Man farther from the Gospel. You bring lambs into the fold by works and deeds, not through prophesying falsely.

Matthew 18:6-8 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
Causing Others to Lose Faith

6 “These little ones believe in me. It would be best for the person who causes one of them to lose faith to be drowned in the sea with a large stone hung around his neck. 7 How horrible it will be for the world because it causes people to lose their faith. Situations that cause people to lose their faith will arise. How horrible it will be for the person who causes someone to lose his faith!

8 “If your hand or your foot causes you to lose your faith, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life disabled or injured than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into everlasting fire.
 

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not through prophesying falsely.
I have not said anything that is considered a false prophesy. point me to it if you think so. if I remember right, my words are "more than likely.....etc etc..." NO? and by the way AB, I've known no preacher in my town or any other town I've visited that preaches to extremely atheistic people like I've found on this forum. not everybody is that way, of course, but Richard would certainly be a yes in that regard. that's the difference really between online communication and in-person communication. but in order for you to find out just like DOC, you would have to meet me at a bar for a beer to see what i could do for you as well. but you'll probably never find out, so alas....
 

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yeah, I don't get you guys. I'll stop replying to these things, since you guys seem to think I'm *selling* something or trying to play mind games

Oh, if ONLY you could FIND that beam in your eye...

Adam, each of us can only go by what we see. What I see is that you have thoroughly deluded yourself that you have a pleasing personality. Your extreme negativity pushes many people away. It's a good thing that public gatherings involving tar, feathers, and a long rail have now gone out of style.

If you want to come to New Orleans, we might get together, might not. Depends on whether I have a root canal scheduled at that time and whether I would keep the dental appointment even if I knew you were coming.
 

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for their idiotic obsession with taking American capitalism into countries that were already unsustainable due to over-crowdeness

So what do you suggest for those countries? Communism, where NOBODY has enough to eat and where because of lack of incentive, nobody tries to advance themselves? History of communist countries suggests the people would be in a social and economic setting where they are so tired from working just to survive that they have nothing left for self-improvement. Socialism's incentive for self-improvement is not much better.

Historically, people in communism and outright socialism have been worse off, have had wide-spread diseases and poverty, and lots of misery. Even China, which was once rabidly communistic, has had to modify their economy to let people benefit from the fruits of their own labor. Russia, after the collapse of the USSR into over a dozen separate countries, adopted economic capitalism models and method.

Capitalism certainly has flaws. You know why? Because it involves PEOPLE, and PEOPLE are flawed. But at least capitalism avoids the abject idiocy of the "one size fits all" mind-set.

You overlook the fact that the basis for generating wealth starts with rewarding labor. We can quibble at exact compensation levels but work generates value through improvement of some situation, and capitalism thus encompasses the addition of value through efforts. Capitalism lets an economy grow through the added value of the society's collective labor.

Herbert Maslow was an economist who studied human motivation in an economic environment. His conclusions suggested that while no system was perfect, people could be motivated to improve their situation through the sweat of their brow. Capitalism provides that motivation.

I am SICK AND TIRED of your mantra to tear down the basis of this country. If you dislike it that much, LEAVE already. Otherwise, try to work within the system to improve things. You come across as an anarchist and I can tell you right now, that makes you two steps down the path towards becoming a domestic terrorist. But even worse in my eyes, you are a damned party pink, who speaks a good game but cannot follow through.
 

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So what do you suggest for those countries?
I have no idea, Richard. Since I am a follower of the one who knows all and not the political people, there is no answer to that. But keep in mind that Christ, when he was here, never said anything about any sort of "political system" working. there is not a need for them anyway. but that's human nature, so we must have something to control ourselves otherwise we would revert back to roman times where everyone would kill everyone else just to conquer acres of land. If jesus 8did* say something about this, point me to it will ya? cuz i don't remember. Peter, however, *does* say something about this in one of his letters when he refers to "submitting to the authorities". or maybe that's paul?
 

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never said anything about any sort of "political system" working. there is not a need for them anyway

Two comments. First, Jesus said "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." His comment was not to choose one set of politics over another, but rather to work within what you had.

Second, "No need for them anyway"? Look at the countries where there is no political system because it is a religious country. In the middle east, they have sharia in force through Islamic (religious) courts. There, they have religion governing a country, an environment which subjugates women, forces observance of specific religions, condemns people for being of the wrong religion or for having any kind of gender confusion, condemns foreigners... and look how happy they are. They practically FLOODED Europe with Islamic immigrants who wanted OUT of that hell-hole. Some of the immigrants are good people faced with an untenable situation. Others are ne'er-do-well types, raping and robbing as they go, following the good immigrants because they can't rob and steal from the folks left behind who don't have anything TO steal. Yes, they don't need a political system at all.

Do you HONESTLY believe we don't need a government or perhaps do you believe that all we need for civil order comes from religion? Adam, if that is really true then you truly are impaired in some way. I called you short-sighted in another thread, but if this is true, you are myopic beyond any hope of correction.
 

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Two comments. First, Jesus said "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." His comment was not to choose one set of politics over another, but rather to work within what you had.
true. I agree, ok.
Do you HONESTLY believe we don't need a government or perhaps do you believe that all we need for civil order comes from religion?
religion has no chance of running any country, regardless of the type of religion, because the arrogance and ignorance of the human race eventually gets entangled in any given belief system and chaos ensues. so yes, government is needed everywhere strictly for the purpose of controlling human beings, otherwise prolific war and the barbaric nature of human beings would never end. so yes, we are much better off today than we were in the roman-empire days. but if you remember Genesis Richard, God saw this "advancement" of ours soooo many millenia ago when he told his angels after seeing the people build teh tower of babel and attempt to reach the heavens:
this is just the beginning of what they will do. nothing will be impossible for them now
I don't disagree with you in the slightest wise one, but indeed if everyone were as cooperative, non-judgemental, and calm as the monks I talk to, more than likely the need for a government would be a moot point. but again, there are so few people like that in the world, overseeing government entities becomes a necessity.

by the way, I have a sneaking suspicion that the lead monk at the monestary is proposing I explore monasticism with their organization because they're a little bit in the dark about what the future holds in this insanely out-of-control world. I'm a pretty calm individual and display it in real life everywhere I go, which does actually give a lot of people confidence to be brave. so if I ever did join their org, more than likely I would be looked at as a secondary source of comfort, behind God and his son. I've had that happen many times throughout my life. and NO, I'm showing arrogance.
 
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