Gotta love nature!!

Rich said:
somebody holding a gun to your head?:confused: :rolleyes:

You two crack me up. :D
 
Rich said:
he thinks he's a kernel but he's really just nuts!

And that is a bad thing?? :confused: :p
 
selenau837 said:
I was checking my mail, because it finally stopped raining! YEAH

Anyways, there is a chestnut tree in my yard, and heard a crunching noise, so I looked up to see what it was. It was a cute little squirrrel crunching on the few nuts that were left. I smiled to myself and said 'Ahhh, how cute"

I started to head in doors and to my surprise, I got pelted with a nut!!! I looked back up and I swear it looked like it was laughing at me. That little snot!!!

Hehehe....gotta love nature.


selena


The squirrel probably was laughing. When I let my dog outside he often ends up going crazy and barking at the squirrels in the trees. My wife and I swear that those squirrels purposely sit up there and taunt our dog. :D
 
NJudson said:
The squirrel probably was laughing. When I let my dog outside he often ends up going crazy and barking at the squirrels in the trees. My wife and I swear that those squirrels purposely sit up there and taunt our dog. :D

Yes, they are evil li'l creatures. *giggles* That is why they are so cute!!:D
 
jsanders said:
I'm ignoring you from now on out.
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selenau837 said:
I was so afraid of guns until 3 months ago when she took me to the shooting range. I fell in love with it from that moment on.

No more fear.
so we can add another US citizen to the list of people smitten by the thought of swaggering round brandishing a gun thinking they are at the OK Corral.

Tell me Selina, if you get a gun and there's a teenage girl, maybe an opportunist, break in your house unarmed - would you look into her eyes and blast her brains out? ( I doubt we'll get an answer, whenever probing questions are asked of the US posters here, they are often ignored)

Isn't the US motto "Happiness is a warm gun?" (written by John Lennon, born UK, killed by a gun in the USA by a crazy gunslinger)

Col
 
ColinEssex said:
so we can add another US citizen to the list of people smitten by the thought of swaggering round brandishing a gun thinking they are at the OK Corral.

If I had my way, I would carry a sword across my back, but those are not allowed to be carried. :D



Tell me Selina,

Selena :p


if you get a gun and there's a teenage girl, maybe an opportunist, break in your house unarmed - would you look into her eyes and blast her brains out? ( I doubt we'll get an answer, whenever probing questions are asked of the US posters here, they are often ignored)

I try not to ignore questions, especially when they are meant to try and belittle me. ;) . I never once said 'Shoot first, check later' did I? I currently do not own a gun, and it will be sometime before I do. As well as the type of gun I will own was said 'to not do much damage'. I am not out for blood; I am only out for protection.

However if someone broke into my house and attempted harm to me or my children, I would use what ever force is necessary to stop the would be assailant. What is the difference is shooting someone breaking into your house, and beating them to death with your fist, or baseball bat? Nothing in my eyes; Both cause physical damage and possibly death

Isn't the US motto "Happiness is a warm gun?" (written by John Lennon, born UK, killed by a gun in the USA by a crazy gunslinger)

As for that quote, I do not know. That is before my time. :D
 
selenau837 said:
I never once said 'Shoot first, check later' did I?
No you didn't.
However, in my scenario, you don't know what the teenage girl may do, they've done nothing yet and is just stood there as are you 10ft away with a gun. When do you shoot? . . . . . . now? or wait and kill them later.

Why do you feel you need a gun anyway? other US posters here have said that its a rare (ish) thing to own a handgun. What is the attraction with a gun?

In the UK I think its a safe bet that most people have never seen a real live gun let alone own one. I know I've never seen one, I wouldn't know one from the other only that they all kill.

Col

ps - apologies for the spelling mistake in your name;)
 
ColinEssex said:
However, in my scenario, you don't know what the teenage girl may do, they've done nothing yet and is just stood there as are you 10ft away with a gun.
Um, Col, go look back at your post #68, you contradict yourself. Since when is Breaking and Entering "not doing anything wrong"?
Also how can you make a determination on what you are going to do. The situation determines the action.
If she is standing still not moving, a head shot is your best bet, but if she startes to move, go for multiple torso shots :eek:
 
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ColinEssex said:
No you didn't.
However, in my scenario, you don't know what the teenage girl may do, they've done nothing yet and is just stood there as are you 10ft away with a gun. When do you shoot? . . . . . . now? or wait and kill them later.

In your scenario, I would hold her at bay, if possible with dialiog, and call the cops.

Now, if it was a very tall agressive person advancing on me with hands out and menence in their eyes, (notice I didn't specify a gender) I would shoot if I had the gun. That is if I didn't have pepper spray handy. (Which by the way I am getting VERY soon before my next semester starts in the spring)

Why do you feel you need a gun anyway? other US posters here have said that its a rare (ish) thing to own a handgun. What is the attraction with a gun?

In the area I recently moved from it was almost necessary to have one. Meth labs everywhere, drugs etc. That in turn causes people to break in and steal stuff for drug money.

In the UK I think its a safe bet that most people have never seen a real live gun let alone own one. I know I've never seen one, I wouldn't know one from the other only that they all kill.

My dad was a Police Officer, I was raised around guns. Yes, I was afraid of his gun, but he taught me respect of it. He had a revolver. Very scary to a 8 yr old.

Col

ps - apologies for the spelling mistake in your name;)

No problem, I do it all the time myself. ;)



PS, I feel like one of the group now, that I am being bashed. Thanks for the loving reception. *giggles*
 
Also, look at my profile pic, do I really look like someone who would blow someone away for breaking in my house. :p Come on people.

I am actually a sweet southern bell, who would probably invite them for tea before I would pull a trigger. ;) :D :rolleyes:
 
FoFa said:
Um, Col, go look back at your post #68, you contradict yourself. Since when is Breaking and Entering "not doing anything wrong"?
My apologies for not making myself clear - Selena was referring to possible harm coming to children etc. my [correct] quote of "they've done nothing yet" refers to the harming of children or adults.

Breaking and entering is a crime in itself - I was merely trying to determine at what point does one actually shoot / kill the intruder.

Its like the question to our Prime Minister, "when do you press THE button?" - when the Chinese or Soviets sail into the North Sea? when they dock at Southampton?

You see, with Selena's new love of guns, adrenaline must play a part and Selena could well shoot and kill an intruder who would no more harm a child than fly to the moon. I said "an opprtunist" - maybe a window left open "inviting" a petty thief in, now Selena has killed them in an adrenalin rush and the 16yr old girl who ran away from home because of cruelty, who was only looking for food is now dead.

In the area I recently moved from it was almost necessary to have one. Meth labs everywhere, drugs etc. That in turn causes people to break in and steal stuff for drug money.

So there is a complete law and order breakdown there - and its up to householders to defend themselves in an anarchic society? like vigilante groups? hang 'em from the nearest tree like in the wild west? Other US posters have said it is not necessary to have a gun at all.:confused:

Col
 
selenau837 said:
Also, look at my profile pic, do I really look like someone who would blow someone away for breaking in my house. :p Come on people.

I am actually a sweet southern bell, who would probably invite them for tea before I would pull a trigger. ;) :D :rolleyes:

selenau837 said:
I was so afraid of guns until 3 months ago when she took me to the shooting range. I fell in love with it from that moment on.

No more fear.
so why have a gun then? the area you moved to (not from) demands you have one??

BTW - doesn't "Southern Bell" have an "e" as in "Southern Belle"? (I may be wrong);)

Col
 
So there is a complete law and order breakdown there - and its up to householders to defend themselves in an anarchic society? like vigilante groups? hang 'em from the nearest tree like in the wild west? Other US posters have said it is not necessary to have a gun at all.

Gosh, you do put words in peoples post!! Vigilante, anarchic society. I am far from what you percieve me to be.

I am not some gun toten, red neck, beer guzzling woman. I am a educated (even if I can't spell :p ), hard working, single mother who is trying to protect her family the best she can. I will not accept riducule from those who have not walked in my shoes. :D

The lessons were offered to me, so I took them. I see nothing wrong with people learning to defend them selves.
 
So there is a complete law and order breakdown there - and its up to householders to defend themselves in an anarchic society? like vigilante groups? hang 'em from the nearest tree like in the wild west? Other US posters have said it is not necessary to have a gun at all.
Ouch! Col you are starting to fight dirty:D

Brian
 
The problem with gun ownership is that it is a vicious circle.
I sometimes think that I would like to have a gun under the pillow incase of an intruder, but if that was likely then the intruder would probably think that he had better have a gun incase the householder has one, and as he is awake and no doubt running on adrenalin the odds are in his favour, so I guess its better just to hand over the money and call the cops/insurance.

Brian
 
selenau837 said:
Gosh, you do put words in peoples post!! Vigilante, anarchic society. I am far from what you percieve me to be.
I merely read your comments to mean - If an area of a city in the USA necessitates the purchase of a gun because of the fear of drug crazed zombies. One can only assume that the area is a no-go area for police and therefore its up to the residents to render their own law and order - by having a gun etc

selenau837 said:
I am not some gun toten, red neck, beer guzzling woman. I am a educated (even if I can't spell :p ), hard working, single mother who is trying to protect her family the best she can.
who said you are? I have scanned the posts and I can't find a reference to beer swilling:confused:
selenau837 said:
I will not accept riducule from those who have not walked in my shoes. :D
no reason why you should, who's ridiculing? I was merely trying to look for logic and reasoning behing your sudden love of guns which does seem to fly in the face of the US posters who are trying to play down the gun owning thing in the USA. Plus trying to assertain exactly when you would pull the trigger - i.e. is there a rule book or something

Bear in mind Selena, in the UK guns owning is very rare as is gun carrying police. So its a bit of a mystery to us why people do it in the USA

Col
 
ColinEssex said:
You see, with Selena's new love of guns, adrenaline must play a part and Selena could well shoot and kill an intruder who would no more harm a child than fly to the moon. I said "an opprtunist" - maybe a window left open "inviting" a petty thief in, now Selena has killed them in an adrenalin rush and the 16yr old girl who ran away from home because of cruelty, who was only looking for food is now dead.
Petty Thief, so you confront them, they decide that police would be a bad idea and they all of sudden turn from a petty thief into a murderer? See what always throws me on these kind of scenerios, is if the person did not break and enter, than the whole situation would not have happened. Once they cross the threshold, they are a target. One reason I have two big dogs, to discourge that crossing of the threshold.
 

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