Lets Stop George Bush before he Destroys the Whole Planet Earth.

[Kraj]

You've been infected with the American disease Brian, you're now resorting to personal insults too

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*breathes*

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*wipes tear from eye*

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Seriously.... is that the best you can do? Is blaming everything on America the sum and totality of your cognitive powers? You can't even come up with some different way to martyr yourself that you have to resort to accusing other British people of being too American? Are you really that entertainingly insane or do you just get off on trying to get a rise out of people?

Get a grip, man. You complaining about being told you have "a narrow, jaundiced view" is like David Duke complaining about being called a racist.

 

[Rich]

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Seriously.... is that the best you can do? Is blaming everything on America the sum and totality of your cognitive powers?

I don't blame everything on America, however in this case the poster was a frequent visitor and where part of his lineage could posibly be traced back to America.

You complaining about being told you have "a narrow, jaundiced view" is like David Duke complaining about being called a racist.

Well that's odd, almost every American posting here has been jumping down my throat claiming that racism doesn't exist in America anymore

How strange that this man recieved 40% of the vote including 60% of the white vote at the time of election
Remind me again who needs to get a grip?

 

[Bodisathva]

What are you babbling about now?

Sorry 'bout that...your powers of persuasion are too much for me at times

and if you lot didn't keep claiming that we'd all be speaking German if not for you
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You did not win the war on your own and if you want to get pissy every time it's pointed out then that your problem not mine!

Tell yourself what you want, but despite our self-serving reasoning behind entering the war, there's no way you would have beaten the combined forces of the Axis powers without our help and you know it. I'm not suggesting that the Mighty US swept in like an avenging horde and single handedly routed the Germans, I'm suggesting that any way you cut it, the addition of the American military forces most certainly was the reason that the tide of the war shifted and without the that influx of military power, we'd not be having this pleasant conversation....Herr Riche

 

[Terri321]

I don’t believe our lives will go back to normal. I don’t want to be the voice of doom and gloom. The inevitable is the New World Order politics is constantly marching onward and into.

We must have loss of liberties; we must respect the police that will control us.
We must accept the fact that presidents as well as other politicians can and will steal their chairs if not voted in by the people.

We must be told what to carry on our person, we must be scanned, our children must be fenced in and scanned. Its all for our protection. We want protection from the terrorists in our country, they are everywhere amongst us. We the people will be checked. Our homes must be checked without warrant. We can be arrested by FEMA, if we are it is without trial and we will loose our constitutional rights.

HAARP has a strong control of the weather, Elf Towers are springing up nation wide, as so are Concentration Camps. Our borders are soon to be opened as we are to carry a chip card we may feely cross the border as the card is like a passport.
Our Country will welcome many more new comers. We could have more concern of terrorism.

Seventy- three percent of the populations have raised eyebrows at the events of 911 as inside job. So in short, as the people seem to be over ruled, there is no way to stop the political, global desire for New World Order and all that comes with it. Big Brother is and will be keeping a very close eye on all of us. We will be controlled people.

Main stream media is not covering the political agenda as it truly is. We are fed selective information that is irrelevant to the events taking place in our Nation. This is a one very well planned step at a time procedure, to consistently lead us onward into.
There is no going back to what we once knew.


http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html

This link opens to FEMA the secret government.



Terri321

 

[Terri321]

Did I leave out the black helicopters and fear of the people?
Fear of the constitutional right we have to speak freely as we feel it is or as we see it.
Fear because the government knows all we do online and its recorded in a data base.
Fear of our telephone calls being intercepted and it too is recorded and stored in a data base. That the government keeps tabs on the so called people that are apposed to or speaking of the New World Order.
Fear of attack by government or loss of life is sweeping the land. When people are dominated and ruled by fear. Is that a free people?

 

[Adeptus]

So Terri, according to the US Constitution you should all be taking up arms & overthrowing the corrupt government?

I haven't read it in detail, but from bits I remember I think that's the reason for your Right To Bear Arms isn't it?

 

[Rich]

http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html

This link opens to FEMA the secret government.



Terri321

You do realise that you'll now be branded anti American and an enemy of the State

 

[Rich]

So Terri, according to the US Constitution you should all be taking up arms & overthrowing the corrupt government?

I haven't read it in detail, but from bits I remember I think that's the reason for your Right To Bear Arms isn't it?

and to overthrow the church and stop God from running the country

 

[Terri321]

So Terri, according to the US Constitution you should all be taking up arms & overthrowing the corrupt government?

I haven't read it in detail, but from bits I remember I think that's the reason for your Right To Bear Arms isn't it?

The right to bear arms is under attack. The government would like to see arms removed from all of our homes.


Politicians are exempt from. As well as those that currently own unregistered weapons.

Women have obtained a small gun for protection in cases of a stalker.
Homeowners have them for protection.
Hunters enjoy the sport of as well as the meat of.
Sharp shooters enjoy a riffle range and target practice.

With terrorists in our country. What a time to want to remove arms.

Those that have weapons with intent to kill and harm others will still maintain the carrying and ownership of them with no them. We knew that would happen.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xeHclwb8Ng&mode=related&search=



RIGHT TO CARRY PROHIBITED:
Wisconsin – Illinois



RIGHT TO CARRY SEVERELY RESTRICTED:
California - Iowa - New York - Massachusetts - Rhode Island
New Jersey - Maryland - Delaware - Hawaii - Washington, DC

http://www.2asisters.org/


Terri321

 

[Terri321]

We will be striped of arms; we will be told what to carry on our person as now visible in airports. One week they were told not to carry face creams perfumes, lipstick and so forth. The next week a woman overlooked a water bottle and was threatened to be hauled to prison.

You will watch what you say or you can be held in contempt of government.
It’s happening too.

We must comply, one step at a time. We are going into a dictatorship. A dictatorship arises during a time of terrorists or war. The people are told exactly what to do and their freedoms are lost or restricted. What’s the next step?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA1g3wjHEmw&mode=related&search=


Terri321

 

[Rich]

there's no way you would have beaten the combined forces of the Axis powers without our help and you know it.

Can you proove it ? and in any case I've never claimed that we could.
What is at issue here is the claim that Israel is in the same postion now as the UK was during WW11.
Total nonsense. If America is the great defender of Judaism why did it refuse Britains request to allow Jews to flee Europe to North Africa during WW11?

 

[Terri321]

You do realise that you'll now be branded anti American and an enemy of the State

Do you realize that act in itself is a violation of my constitutional right?
Freedom of speech: Is violated.



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In George Orwell's dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four the government attempts to control not only the speech and actions, but also the thoughts of its subjects, labeling unapproved thoughts with the term thoughtcrime or, in Newspeak, "crimethink".
In the book, Winston Smith, the main character, writes in his diary:

For a thought crime we must have the thought Police.

The Thought Police
(thinkpol in Newspeak) was the secret police of the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four whose job it was to uncover and punish thoughtcrime.

The Thought Police used psychology and omnipresent surveillance to find and eliminate members of society who were capable of the mere thought of challenging ruling authority.


Orwell's Thought Police and their pursuit of thoughtcrime was based on the methods used by the totalitarian states and competing ideologies of the 20th century.

It also had much to do with Orwell's own "power of facing unpleasant facts," as he called it, and his willingness to criticise prevailing ideas which brought him into conflict with others and their "smelly little orthodoxies."

Although Orwell described himself as a democratic socialist, many other socialists (especially those who supported the communist branch of socialism) thought that his criticism of the Soviet Union under Stalin damaged the socialist cause.

The term "Thought Police," by extension, has come to refer to real or perceived enforcement of ideological correctness in any modern or historical contexts.

Are we still free?

Terr321

 

[Terri321]

http://jonesreport.com/articles/240406_neil_young.html



Neil Young has a new song about to hit the radio stations.
If a thought is a crime; wait until the Gestapo hears this tune. Neil is going to be in violation of something.

Terri321

 

[Rich]

Do you realize that act in itself is a violation of my constitutional right?
Freedom of speech: Is violated.

I'm not convinced that anyone has ever truly had "freedom of speech"

 

[Terri321]

I'm not convinced that anyone has ever truly had "freedom of speech"

Freedom of speech is still here for now in part. I say in part due to some being squelched for speaking. It is happening now as it has always. The wrong person in power that knows and or says; too much or could damage a system unseen by the common eye, or obvious to all; is removed conveniently from earth. Two examples are President Kennedy and Martin Luther King.


Freedom of speech to extent of so repetitiously vulgar can sound like a foreign language. We are now loosing freedom of speech slowly as in when and where to speak of politics and religion. People have lost jobs or expelled from schools, for speaking of such, when it has been so ordained to not.

Some people fear speaking what they think as they see the repercussions of others that have voiced their view on Politics. If you notice even the Hollywood Stars that step up to the mike to bash government policy: they all take recount on our liberty, our right, our freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech first off is a God given right, secondly granted through the death of our country men. Historically it is one of the rights that made this Nation great. For now, for a time, we still have freedom of speech in part.


Terri321

 

[Ksan]

Freedom of speech is not a God given right.

Where it exists it is a situation forged for ourselves and gained by our actions as communities. Likewise, it can be lost or removed by the action or inaction of the community.

God has nothing to do with it. If we lost the power of free speech, would he suddenly wisk down from above to re-instate it?

Freedom of speech is also a state of mind, not a state of society. While you can still speak, you can say what you like. Others, who fear punishment for doing so have already lost more than the freedom of speech, they have lost the will. Those who speak and care not for any consequence of voicing their opinion are those who know the freedom.

"Lets Stop George Bush before he Destroys the Whole Planet Earth". Meh, leave him be... And rejoice like I do in the comfort that he can only serve two terms in office! Then, perhaps the world can get back to being a little less silly.

 

[Ksan]

...And as I notice a lot of anti-American sentiment in these threads I'll also clarify that I don't hold GWB as the sole perpatratior of the current world trend - Our PM too, has a LOT to answer for in steadfastly supporting such a nutter.

The administration of quite a few governments around the globe in fact, has gone a bit fruity in recent years - almost like they are all working together to usher in the aforementioned NWO.

Terrorism relies on fear, keep your eyes open long enough and although I don't doubt there is a terrorist threat (always has been, always will be- on the cause changes) it is no where near as immense and all-pervading as the governments of the world wish us to perceive it. Fear can be manipulated, just keep an open mind as to who exactly is manipulating it and for what purposes.

...Seems a little bit of a coincidence that in an age where mankind is suddenly expoding the freedom of information and travelling almost effortlessly and at whim across the globe, where almost anything is within our reach - terrorism occurs and we're being closed down and restricted. Bit hard to govern and control an empowered and mobile population isn't it???

 

[dan-cat]

With terrorists in our country. What a time to want to remove arms.

I'm not quite sure why Rich hasn't pitched in here. Proably because you're doing such a fine job of degrading the intelligence of the American people. Anyway here is what he should have said:

The UK public has put up with terrorism and invasions for decades without arming up the populace etc etc...

P.S I think you've been reading too much Huxley and Orwell. If the US government can't suppress an insurgent force in Iraq or Afghanistan what makes you think they can do the same for the entire world? You can cross the French of your list for starters

 

[dan-cat]

Two examples are President Kennedy and Martin Luther King.

I hate to tell you this but the two examples you gave to support your theory are over three decades old - do you have anything a little more recent to back yourself up? The attempted assassination of Harry Whittington perhaps?

 

[Brianwarnock]

Quote from Rich about me

I don't blame everything on America, however in this case the poster was a frequent visitor and where part of his lineage could posibly be traced back to America.

Just for the record I have no lineage back to America

Fathers side is from lowland Scots via Northern Ireland, Mothers almost pure Welsh, but there was a Hamilton in there a few generations ago.

I suppose Rich thinks anybody not attacking America must be American

Mind you I'm on his side on who won the war arguments, Germany was never going to invade GB, he actually wanted to do a deal we keep our Empire he gets Europe, but unlike those sitting on the sidelines getting rich we decided to fight evil.

Brian