Lets Stop George Bush before he Destroys the Whole Planet Earth.

[Bodisathva]

On satellite the other day, I came across The Beverly Hillbillies - it made me wonder if they are typical of USA mountain dwellers. If not, where does this image come from? I know the Yanks will say its not typical, and I'm sure thats true - but its interesting where stereotypical images come from. Is it a Hollywood think tank that dreams them up?

not typical...but if you take a large cross section of the "mountain dwellers" from West Virginia to the Ozarks, you would probably come across 90% of the quirks that made up the TV show. You'd also encounter a percentage that have more than 2 teeth, can read and write, bathe regularly, and live in the hills because they wouldn't have it any other way.

What stereotypical images have we of other places / countries? or indeed, have they of us?

you know, the usual...all English drink Martinis (shaken, not stirred), are incredibly randy womanizers, drive Astin Martins, and have really, really, cool gadgets

The Scots all paint their faces blue, moon unsuspecting English, live in little thatched huts, and really don't wear any drawers under those kilts

The Germans wear those little pointy hats, are incredibly obese, and completely clueless that the POWs under their guard have an escape tunnel to get to town (and then come back).

The French do nothing but drink wine at little sidewalk cafes and when the Germans aren't looking, they sneak into the back room to decode the subliminal messages from the BBC.

The Dutch all live in windmills, wear wooden shoes, and grow massive quantities of tulips

 

[Brianwarnock]

you know, the usual...all English drink Martinis (shaken, not stirred), are incredibly randy womanizers, drive Astin Martins, and have really, really, cool gadgets

The Scots all paint their faces blue, moon unsuspecting English, live in little thatched huts, and really don't wear any drawers under those kilts

The Germans wear those little pointy hats, are incredibly obese, and completely clueless that the POWs under their guard have an escape tunnel to get to town (and then come back).

The French do nothing but drink wine at little sidewalk cafes and when the Germans aren't looking, they sneak into the back room to decode the subliminal messages from the BBC.

The Dutch all live in windmills, wear wooden shoes, and grow massive quantities of tulips

I think Col was referring to untrue stereotyping.

brian

 

[Brianwarnock]

Hi Col

Jigga , Jigger, Back Entry, Alley

From Wikipedia for Jigger

An alleyway or entry back jigger, an access to the rear of a row of houses, term used by people in Liverpool, England, United Kingdom. (Believed to come from the use of the back entries for "jig-jig" as African sailors called having sex)

Brian

Ps who have not lived if you have not had a knee trembler up the back jigger.

 

[ColinEssex]

you know, the usual...all English drink Martinis (shaken, not stirred), are incredibly randy womanizers, drive Astin Martins, and have really, really, cool gadgets

I have a bottle of Martini (Rosso) in our cocktail cabinet, the women thing is true - the only thing I haven't got is the Aston, I have a Ford Mondeo with cool gadgets - like a cup holder and a little space to put coins.

The Scots all paint their faces blue, moon unsuspecting English, live in little thatched huts, and really don't wear any drawers under those kilts

thats all true, and they hate the English

The Germans wear those little pointy hats, are incredibly obese, and completely clueless that the POWs under their guard have an escape tunnel to get to town (and then come back).

mostly true, but its only the Yanks that keep POW's these days in Cuba, the practice was abandoned by most civilised countries years ago.

The French do nothing but drink wine at little sidewalk cafes and when the Germans aren't looking, they sneak into the back room to decode the subliminal messages from the BBC.

first bit true about the cafes - the rest is questionable as the French hate the rest of Europe, especially the English

The Dutch all live in windmills, wear wooden shoes, and grow massive quantities of tulips

thats true, and they travel everywhere by canal boat or bicycle

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

Jigga , Jigger, Back Entry, Alley

is the Liverpool term "fish and finger pie" anything associated with this?

Col

 

[Brianwarnock]

is the Liverpool term "fish and finger pie" anything associated with this?

Col

I'll have to ask the boss when she comes home, not being a true born and bred Liverpudlian I don't know.

Brian

 

[dan-cat]

Look, how can I get this across to you.

I am perfectly aware that downtown Bloominton, Illinois is probobly a super place with hardly any crime - thats not the point, the point is if Hollywood make these programmes and its all untrue, where do they base their ideas from? is it fantasy?

You've just illustrated Kraj's point perfectly. I've already told you. These programmes are based on the abnormal.

For a show to be put on air - it has to be watched. It has to sell. It has to be OUT of the ordinary. I see people getting pulled over for a ticket all the time. Why would I want to buy a DVD of same? For me to buy that DVD it has to offer me something that I don't normally see.

All you're doing is ignoring perfectly valid answers to your questions and repeating the same question over and over again with the accusation that you're not being responded to. You ARE bring responded to, you're just not listening.

 

[ColinEssex]

You've just illustrated Kraj's point perfectly. I've already told you. These programmes are based on the abnormal.

All you're doing is ignoring perfectly valid answers to your questions and repeating the same question over and over again with the accusation that you're not being responded to. You ARE bring responded to, you're just not listening.

I will drop this topic for a while, because you ( and Kraj) just don't understand what I'm getting at

Lets move on to another subject

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

I'll have to ask the boss when she comes home, not being a true born and bred Liverpudlian I don't know.

Brian

In case its rude it is referred to in the song "Penny Lane"

Col

 

[Brianwarnock]

In case its rude it is referred to in the song "Penny Lane"

Col

Hmm! I'd better tread carefully, asked my son in law, who asked his mum who is a real scouser in her 70s but neither knew, perhaps its a figment of John/Paul's imagination.

Brian

 

[Brianwarnock]

You were right to be cautious.

http://www.pointon.f2s.com/Content/ContentAtoH3.htm

Brian

 

[Matt Greatorex]

Congradulations Matt, glad to see ya back.

Thanks, I would say "good to be back", but as much as I enjoy the forum, it comes a poor second

I have a Ford Mondeo with cool gadgets - like a cup holder and a little space to put coins.

Thanks for that, Col. I just spat my drink all over the keyboard.

I'd love to see a "Pay attention, Bond" speech involving Q explaining either of those.

and there's a vampire in the White House at the minute

Spooky coincidence? Have you been sneaking a look at Terri321s public profile?

Or..no, it couldn't be, could it? If you take the word 'Rich', add some characters and remove some others it actually spells 'Terri321'.

Go on admit it, you've finally snapped and are now masquerading as an American conspiracy theorist.

 

[Matty]

Lets move on to another subject
Col

I'm quite sure that will be temporary.

 

[ColinEssex]

I'm quite sure that will be temporary.

How true, but Rich and I will try to keep our American colleagues on track

Col

 

[Kraj]

I will drop this topic for a while, because you ( and Kraj) just don't understand what I'm getting at

You've actually proven my point in more ways than one, so there's really no need for me to discuss it further.

Lets move on to another subject

That's what we've been suggesting for months.

But to answer your question about who has departed or spent less time here because of the continuous crapfest this place has become: my visits here are increasingly infrequent, Dan has expressed being on the verge of leaving, Selena rarely says anything other than 'Hi', Chad disappeared without hardly a word as did CJBirkin/Stoat, Tess comes around maybe once a month, Ken rarely posts in the Cooler anymore, Joe has more or less disappeared... and those are just the ones off the top of my head. All are people who regularly contributed to friendly conversations and intelligent discussions and all are people who regularly expressed frustration over the increasingly unfriendly and unconstructive nature of the content here.

I recognize my contribution to this mess. If you want to pretend that everyone else is the problem, well, have fun with that.

 

[MrsGorilla]

Those are just one or two examples, almost the entire output of American media shows violence, corruption, drug pushing, guns in everybodys hands, etc.
I rest my case

Not the shows I watch.

I rest my case.

 

[ColinEssex]

You've actually proven my point in more ways than one, so there's really no need for me to discuss it further.

not really, but never mind.

But to answer your question about who has departed or spent less time here because of the continuous crapfest this place has become: my visits here are increasingly infrequent, Dan has expressed being on the verge of leaving, Selena rarely says anything other than 'Hi', Chad disappeared without hardly a word as did CJBirkin/Stoat, Tess comes around maybe once a month, Ken rarely posts in the Cooler anymore, Joe has more or less disappeared

Apart from Dan threatening to go elsewhere (but he didn't), there are no reasons given for their infrequency, apart from Selena who is training and has no access to a PC. She will be back provided she has internet access.

Col

 

[The_Doc_Man]

What you mean is that because I refuse to accept your point of view I'm either stupid or just anti-American

What I mean is that I have watched you refuse to accept ANYONE ELSE'S point of view. You have that right, but it means that I have no hope of changing your mindset. I am intelligent enough to recognize the futility of the attempt. Therefore, by applying the serenity prayer, I find that I must accept that which I cannot change and be thankful that I eventually found the wisdom to tell the difference.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Dan-cat

I have to say, that this is nonsense.

This was in response to my comment about no innocent citizens in Lebanon.

If the folks in Lebanon didn't kick out Hezbollah themselves, they became part of the problem. I see the parallel to this in inner cities of the USA. The druggies take over whole neighborhoods and the people who live there haven't got the guts to stand up to them. So they let it happen, then complain when nobody stops them from preying on the neighborhood.

Just remember, not to decide is to decide. If you don't want to be bombed to Hell and gone, remove the targets from your area.

 

[dan-cat]

Just remember, not to decide is to decide. If you don't want to be bombed to Hell and gone, remove the targets from your area.

Hi Doc,

You have to remember that it's not a crime to be meek. Just because civilians don't respond aggresively, it doesn't mean they take moral responsibility for the criminal's actions. Some people are simply not cut out for confrontation and it's usually those whose lives are cheapest when it comes to war.

We now have Hezbollah claiming victory, Israel admitting that they screwed up their military planning and plenty of civilians who just want to live a peaceful life, blown to smithereens. Basically lives lost with no gain whatsoever.