ColinEssex said:
You do talk a load of boll**** Ken!!!! we are quite open to be challenged
Ah, but are you open to be wrong
We shall see...
ColinEssex said:
Its totally wrong to bring religion into what is now called "christmas" let alone try to claim a pagan festival as a religious event.
Mesopotamians assisted Marduk (their chief God) in his struggle against the Monsters of chaos by holding a festival for the New Year.
Europeans celebrated winter solstice to welcome back the sun as they feared it would not return. They indeed worshipped the sun on its return - sounds a little religious to me.
Ancient greeks had a festival at the same time of year to celebrate their God Kronos.
The 25th of December was sacred to the Persians and their religion of Mithraism
The pagan festival that you are referring to is probably Saturnalia. Another religious festival, this time Romans worshipping Saturn and the festival that was allegedly adopted by Christianity.
What is now called "Christmas" is actually steeped in religion.
The actual timing of Christ's birth may not be accurate but the similarity of symbolism is obvious (ie the arrival of the New Covenant)