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[CJ_London]

capability in math, physics, chemistry is much more critical

is about work

knowledge in history.

is about how we got here

I think both are important

 

[KitaYama]

is about work

is about how we got here

I think both are important

It doesn't answer my simple question.
Does it make my life better? Does it make me a better person?

 

[CJ_London]

better person, better life - for me it is about being happy (and happy does not equate to complacent). Knowing where I came from, where my environment came from is part of that. If I didn't know about the holocaust, WW1 or WW2 it probably wouldn't make a whole lot of difference, but it gives me perspective - life now v life then and I consider myself fortunate, which goes towards making me happy.

 

[KitaYama]

better person, better life - for me it is about being happy (and happy does not equate to complacent). Knowing where I came from, where my environment came from is part of that. If I didn't know about the holocaust, WW1 or WW2 it probably wouldn't make a whole lot of difference, but it gives me perspective - life now v life then and I consider myself fortunate, which goes towards making me happy.

You make absolute sense. But those who didn't know about 6 million innocents who were sacrificed are happy too, but in a different way.
I'm happy too, without knowing where I came from.

Human has been killing each other from a 1000 years ago. Do we have to know all the counts to know where we came from?

Few people may know about the count of those who were killed by Chinggis Khan, or European wars of religion or in Vietnam or during Persian Gulf war or ..... But everybody is OK with it until somebody starts writing an article that the young generation doesn't know about 6m jews. Just like it's the end of the world (or humanity).
Why only the young generation is under question? How many of us (who are not a part of young adults) know how many people have been killed during any of above wars (or other major wars)?

If those young adults who are blamed for not knowing about the 6m count, are in a situation that need to know how many were killed in world war 2, they can google it. What's wrong with not knowing it? We're living in a time that we can talk to our phones. My phone is not able to solve some difficult calculations. That's where I spent my time to learn more and that's when my knowledge comes to life. But it can answer me how many were sacrificed in world war 2. I don't blame myself for not knowing the count.

 

[GPGeorge]

Does it make their lives any better if they knew?
I didn't know that, but if knowing how many jews were killed makes my life and my society better, I'll start reading history books.

Personally I think their low level of capability in math, physics, chemistry is much more critical and has more impact in their lives, than their level of knowledge in history. If for any reason someday I gain the power, I work more on scientific aspects.
Again just what I think. You may think different and be happy that I won't have that power ever.

Excellent. You do admit to the abysmal level of education in math, physics, and chemistry among today's university students. That is merely an extension of the scope of the problem.

In one sense, you're right, the exact number of people slaughtered is not the critical factor. And, by the way, it was not just Jews. The total includes millions of Eastern Europeans who were inconveniently living in land the Nazis coveted.

Rather, the point is that it did happen; it was systematic; it was at the very the heart of the National Socialists' core agenda. When young people are no longer told the truth about the scale and depth of that horror, tragedy looms before us again.

I'm quite sure the commanders of the SS extermination squads were happy too. The problem is not that people are happy in their ignorance.

The problem is that ignorance leads to further tragedy.

 

[KitaYama]

When young people are no longer told the truth about the scale and depth of that horror, tragedy looms before us again.

I think I answered it. War and killing each other is (or has become) a part of us.
Have we learned about previous wars and not starting new ones? No. We haven't. And we won't.
What you say is like a dream that will never come true. We have had wars after wars. The history repeats and we go into the same circle of mistakes.
If we are not learning, why criticizing those who are unaware of the count?
I believe the low level of knowledge of those who are graduated from universities (as pat explained here) is much more critical.

A Harvard degree will soon be a laughingstock. Sort of like a participation trophy.

@Any-Moderator-who-reads : I think we are way too far off topic. If possible it may be better to move the last several posts to a new thread.
Apologies to OP.

 

[GPGeorge]

I think I answered it. War and killing each other is (or has become) a part of us.
Have we learned about previous wars and not starting new ones? No. We haven't. And we won't.
What you say is like a dream that will never come true. We have had wars after wars. The history repeats and we go into the same circle of mistakes.
If we are not learning, why criticizing those who are unaware of the count?
I believe the low level of knowledge of those who are graduated from universities (as pat explained here) is much more critical.



@Any-Moderator-who-reads : I think we are way too far off topic. If possible it may be better to move the last several posts to a new thread.
Apologies to OP.

I agree. This started out as a request for a pre-built project that could be turned in for a grade by someone else and turned into, well, something quite different.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

I think I answered it. War and killing each other is (or has become) a part of us.
Have we learned about previous wars and not starting new ones? No. We haven't. And we won't.
What you say is like a dream that will never come true. We have had wars after wars. The history repeats and we go into the same circle of mistakes.
If we are not learning, why criticizing those who are unaware of the count?
I believe the low level of knowledge of those who are graduated from universities (as pat explained here) is much more critical.



@Any-Moderator-who-reads : I think we are way too far off topic. If possible it may be better to move the last several posts to a new thread.
Apologies to OP.

Your request is noted. However, as the OP appears to have abandoned the thread, I might defer the option to close it. If we don't hear back from Hawker soon, the thread could die a natural death - if we let it.

Therefore, ALL members and ALL other moderators, please let this thread die on its own... except for @hawker who will be the only person with sufficient grounds to post anything else here. If further diversion of the thread continues, I will close it. If anyone else has anything else to say, it is easy enough to start a new thread in the Watercooler or the Politics & Current Events sections.

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