A request to Americans posting on threads.

[Alansidman]

Here is a tribal map of the Native American nations.

http://www.emersonkent.com/images/indian_tribes.jpg

 

[ColinEssex]

Yes, "ode to Billy-Jo", I remember now.

Incidentally, what are the "legal purposes" afforded to a Native American? I thought they were treated as scum by the white man and had to live away from big cities on reservations.
I also believed it to be true that they had no legal or human rights, similar to the coloured folk in Georgia and Alabama.

Col

 

[Alansidman]

I thought they were treated as scum by the white man and had to live away from big cities on reservations.

Been watching those old cowboy movies again, Col?

 

[Rx_]

Windows 8 has introduced Cherokee Language Unicode.
The tribes have differences. Outsiders tend to group them together.
Probably like other countries group people on the Brit Islands as one group.
The diversity of any geographic or culture is huge. The government's role was an inspiration to some of the worst things.

To answer your question:

There are many books out there. One of the biggest documented events is "The Trail of Tears".
http://www.nationaltota.org/the-story/
Here is one of the nicer sanitized stories with the history, court cases and events of the Five Civilized Tribes. Growing up in the Cherokee Strip, there was a lot of stories that were handed down. Our American History in school was a little different too.

 

[Vassago]

I've been meaning to go back and study my tribal history (Menomonie and Cherokee). I think I may just do that.

 

[Insane_ai]

I happen to be from OH as in...

OH WHY AM I STILL HERE!
OH CRAP, WHY IS IT SNOWING IN SUMMER?
OH WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN TO DRIVE PROPERLY?
OH WHY DID I DRINK SO MUCH?.......

 

[Daz]

When i first came to Iwoa (IA) I was told to check out the town of "Morris" but I could not find it on the map. After about 6 months I foud out the towns name was actually "Maurice". And of course every one outside of Iowa are not sure how to pronounce the name Des Moines l(d moines) as opposed ot in Illinoies you have "Des Plaine" I think the Iowans have trouble with French names. So actually the capitol of Iowa translated is the "The Monks".

daz

 

[statsman]

Any number of odd pronunciations and interesting naming procedures in my travels.
Back in the 1980's I lived in the Ottawa Valley in Eastern Ontario in Canada.
There was a town called South March, but there was no North March.
There was a town called North Gower (pronounced Gore) but no South Gower.
I refereed football so I had to travel to a number of high schools. The Osgoode High School was in the town of Metcalfe, not in the town of Osgoode. Opeongo High School was in the middle of a farmer's field, equidistant between three towns as they couldn't decide which town to build it in.
Just outside the City of Ottawa there was Gloucester (glosster) Township. The main town however was pronounced glou chester.
My personal favourite was a small town in Quebec called Quyon but pronounced Kwee on.

 

[Brianwarnock]

Gloucester (glosster)

That is how we pronounce the English town of the same name

Brian

 

[Alansidman]

Same for Massachusetts. I think the early settlers in New England and Eastern Canada brought the names with them from Britain. Hence the same pronunciations.

 

[AnthonyGerrard]

Same for Massachusetts. I think the early settlers in New England and Eastern Canada brought the names with them from Britain. Hence the same pronunciations.

I thought Native Americans were already speaking some kind of language very similar to English. Hence naming places with with similar spellings and sounds to English places.

You learn something new everyday.

 

[Rx_]

In OK (Oklahoma) dad was born in Jinks, that is next to Nowater (nohwhator).
We also have encoded names. Some people think Kremlin and Enid were the Russian immigrant names during the 1904 land run.
The Land Run was like this. The East Coast heard about the Russian Revolution of early 1900. Suddenly a bunch of Russian wheat farmers show up. We don't want them, how can we get rid of them? Ah, tell them they can go to the Oklahoma Territory and take the Cherokee Strip land. The Tribes sitting around in OK remembered the rich tobacco land they use to own, being forced marched by the military to the Great Plains where there there are not two tree sticks to rub together. Well, at least we are at the bottom, nothing could be worse than this. What is that cloud on the horizon? One-million Russian farmers running to grab free land.
So the first town meeting was in a tent city. A tarp cafe with one window. What should we name the city? They looked out the window from the inside and saw "E N I D".

This is not the only town spelled backwards for its meaning.
I will let you guess what T U L S A is named for.

 

[SyntaxSocialist]

I just find it odd that OP took the time to post this silliness rather than just googling a list of state abbreviations. If locale is so important, then would it not be worthwhile to learn the few abbreviations that are "odd"?

 

[ColinEssex]

I just find it odd that OP took the time to post this silliness rather than just googling a list of state abbreviations. If locale is so important, then would it not be worthwhile to learn the few abbreviations that are "odd"?

Who or what is "OP"?

Col

 

[SyntaxSocialist]

Who or what is "OP"?

Col

"Original Poster"

 

[ColinEssex]

"Original Poster"

Oh, that'll be me then.

I wasn't aware my name had been reduced to "OP", it is difficult typing "Col", so many letters, most confusing, I shall ponder an easier name for you.

Col

 

[SyntaxSocialist]

Col,

I meant no offense. By the time I'd made it to the last page, the top post was no longer visible, and I hadn't taken note of your name. So I wrote "OP." Which, incidentally, a google search could have defined for you.

 

[ColinEssex]

Col,

I meant no offense. By the time I'd made it to the last page, the top post was no longer visible, and I hadn't taken note of your name. So I wrote "OP." Which, incidentally, a google search could have defined for you.

I realise it is hard to scroll to another page, much better to make something up.

Also,

A) I am not in the habit of googling two letters in the hope that an answer may fit the bill.

B) The letters "OP" in the National Health Service where I worked for 37 years mean "out-patient".

Oh and "offense" is spelt "offence". As English is not your first language I hope that helps.

Col

 

[KenHigg]

I realise it is hard to scroll to another page, much better to make something up.

Also,

A) I am not in the habit of googling two letters in the hope that an answer may fit the bill.

Now those are funny - ha!

 

[Brianwarnock]

Oh, that'll be me then.

I wasn't aware my name had been reduced to "OP", it is difficult typing "Col", so many letters, most confusing, I shall ponder an easier name for you.

Col

OP is in common use throughout the technical threads, it implies reference to the original post that started the thread rather than any other post by the original poster.

Brian