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i don't think i've ever seen you write a long drawn out thing like Pat or steve R do, Richard.
Just to be clear that my opinions are my own and apparently similar to Churchill's, developed from real life experience and not the opinion of some talking head pushing an agenda. Don't get me started on their treatment of women. People object to this day of the compromise with the southern states to count slaves as 2/3 of a person. This was strictly to prevent the slave states from gaining undue power just because they had a lot of people who were not citizens. Not because the people framing the Constitution thought the slaves were less than human. Shariah Law counts women as 1/2 of men and it does that in 2021. Less than the population weight we gave to slaves in 1776. If a woman accuses a man of ra** but cannot produce FOUR male witnesses to the crime, she is punished for adultery.And we can always count on Pat to write a book, can't we?
i can't say I disagree with that.Islam is a danger to us all.
i don't think i've ever seen you write a long drawn out thing like Pat or steve R do, Richard.
my favorite atheist is ricky gervais from england. funny man! as far as your essays go, you write really LONG ones in the tech forums. and most of the time too. a little too much over-explaining if you ask me. =)atheism
@Pat Hartman If you like that site, you might also like this one: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Here's some examples that will help you to understand.
SHARIA LAW — LIST OF KEY RULES — What Is Sharia Law? (billionbibles.org)
But why should their top priority be world Peace?What that tells me is that both sides are being intentionally clueless and just want to be obstructive to true world peace.
there IS NO religion of peace. even jesus said this:Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth
Is Islam really a Religion of Peace? What makes Islam so different?www.thereligionofpeace.com
I do not come to bring peace but a sword
there IS NO religion of peace. even jesus said this:
I was just curious which post you were responding to?I think you are misinterpreting the scripture.
Here's the quote in context. It is at 10:34
Matthew 10 ESV - The Twelve Apostles - And he called to - Bible Gateway
Jesus isn't telling us to go to war. He's telling us that his preaching's will be divisive. He was sure right about that.
Not yours You weren't the person to post the Biblical reference.I was just curious which post you were responding to?
For a minute there I thought I clicked on the wrong forum. Why would we need or wish to bring the topic of religion and beliefs into this group. Can't we leave that to other dedicated forums, nothing good will come of it; it will inevitable devide us....You might want to read the Koran and Shariah Law. See if that changes your mind any. Originally Mohamad thought of us all as "people of the book" since Islam like Christianity is also based on the Old Testament. But as Mohamad failed to convince the Jews and Christians that he was the new prophet and they refused to accept him, his mood changed and we became the enemy. The Koran is tough to read. It isn't chronological or grouped by topic. It is composed of Surah's that are organized by their length so the shortest are first and they get progressively longer. I think that is because they force children to memorize it and so it is easier to start with the shorter passages.
The Koran advocates killing people who won't submit to Islam. They also hold slaves and practice polygamy. But unlike the Mormons who put no cap on the number of wives, Islam only permits 4. But the wives don't have any say if the man wants to add to his haram. Islam also encourages temporary "marriages". Sort of like paying for a call girl for the week but sanctioned by the Koran and again, the wife has no say in the matter. Go to any country where Shariah law is imposed and see if you can find a Christian church - any denomination.. How about a Temple? In your dreams. Jews are the ultimate enemy. How about a peaceful community of Amish or an Ashram? Non believers are barely tolerated for business reasons. They are not welcome as residents let alone citizens. In fact, Muslims from other countries aren't even welcome as citizens. Kuwait did have one Catholic church. That was to keep their Indian servant class quiet. In Kuwaiti households, most of the Indian servants slept in a corner of the kitchen or garage on a mat if they were not lucky enough to work in a household with servant quarters. So, they were very happy to work for an American or British family since we treated them like people rather than furniture.
Speaking about Jews being the enemy, one of my best friends is from a family whose whole village was expelled from Iraq in the 1930's. His family moved to China where my friend was born. Then to Australia, Canada, and finally the US. He's spent the last 40 years as an import consultant working as a go-between for American companies needing to source batteries from China using the Mandarin he learned as a small child.
The first nanny we hired turned out to be an escaped sex slave. She was only with us for three weeks and we all loved her when she came to me to tell me she had to leave. I spent a week dragging her around town to embassies, lawyers, and government offices. There wasn't a thing I could do for her. The Indian embassy would issue her a new passport and transportation home although I would have paid for that myself if I had to. Short of that, she had to return to the Kuwaiti who had bought her from her father. Clearly, she would end up on the street if she went home (If you want to call it that), so she went back to her owner. We were too poor to buy her outright from her owner and we were not in a position to just leave when we'd only been there for less than a month and the US wouldn't let me sponsor her for a US visa because we were living in Kuwait. so I couldn't send her home to my mother.
I spent a year living in Kuwait and met a lot of friendly people. Mostly men. Kuwaiti women were homebound unless they were shopping and so there were no social opportunities to meet them although I did meet a number of Lebanese and Egyptian women at the bridge club. Their husbands were businessmen or diplomats. But I also learned a lot about Islam and their beliefs
We are now teaching our children Critical Race Theory so they learn to hate each other but Islam has a big head start. The Madras' in poor Muslim countries funded by rich Muslims from around the world teach the boys nothing but the Koran and hatred for the West. Just enough to make them semi-literate. They are easier to turn into suicide bombers that way. They don't bother teaching the girls. The girls aren't worth teaching in their estimation.
My choice - welcome immigrants who come because they want to become Americans but no others. If Refugees in war-torn areas won't be accepted by the surrounding countries where they share the same customs, religion, and language, why should we take them when they start out with hatred in their hearts like Ilhan Omar. No good comes of this. We rescued her from a refugee camp, housed her, fed her, clothed her, educated her, elected her to Congress, and she absolutely HATEs us. Think about this clearly. None of the stable countries of the region will accept refugees. Why? Morocco is a pretty nice place. I've been there and would love to go back. Sound, safe, surely able to afford to integrate at least some refugees. Why won't they accept Somali or Syrian refugees? What do they know that we don't know?
You're in the WaterCooler...this is where these type of conversations take place. As Pat has suggested, you can either choose not to enter or simply place this portion of AWF on ignore.For a minute there I thought I clicked on the wrong forum. Why would we need or wish to bring the topic of religion and beliefs into this group. Can't we leave that to other dedicated forums, nothing good will come of it; it will inevitable devide us....