I'm in Love with ChatGPT (3 Viewers)

[Jon]

I mention it becasue a) its a new version, and b) I think its multi-modal, c) more up to date?

 

[Jon]

I believe Google's Gemini will be the best from them because it uses some techniques that DeepMind created in AlphaGo. I've lost track if it is already out or not.

 

[jdraw]

Tony,
This may encourage you to adjust your love of chatgpt.

 

[conception_native_0123]

Can you tell me the problem or exercise you’d like to solve?

you forgot to ask the question, Tony.

 

[Isaac]

Lawyer in hot water after using AI to present made up information: 'incompetent'

A New York City lawyer could face discipline in one of the latest examples of attorney's getting caught using artificial intelligence in documents filed to courts.

www.foxnews.com

Another person relying on chatGPT almost lost her career. I'm in love withi the possibilities, but the current product seems like crap to me - it couldn't answer the most basic vba question imaginable and makes stuff up when you least expect it. Depend on it at your own risk.

Currently, everything it produces must be independently verified

 

[AccessBlaster]

Currently, everything it produces must be independently verified

Do you take code from a human expert and immediately put it into production, no you verify it.

 

[Isaac]

Do you take code from a human expert and immediately put it into production, no you verify it.

I'm not so sure about that. It depends on what stage of a process you are at. If you were at the last verification stage, then you wouldn't verify it. Everything ends at some point but human beings don't generally make up totally nonexistent things that now generate intensive corrections. At least I've never worked with someone who did. the AI scenario is taking you backwards, not forwards as it doesn't just require minor corrections or code reviews, but total wipe and replace

 

[moke123]

I've avoided AI, even though it looks like fun. I simply don't trust it and think the amount of damage it could do is enormous.

Many, many years ago there was a plaintiffs attorney in NYC. He made millions of dollars suing NYC for cracks in sidewalks where people allegedly tripped and fell. After many years it was discovered that he possessed a ruler that was 8 or 10 inches long but was scaled to make it look like a full 12" He'd submit photo's of the cracks as evidence using the ruler to make it look worse than it was. I can only imagine how easily this can be accomplished using AI. A picture is no longer worth a thousand words.

Then there's this...

 

[Isaac]

These people are definitely not in love at the moment

Air Canada must honor refund policy invented by airline’s chatbot

Air Canada appears to have quietly killed its costly chatbot support.

arstechnica.com

 

[jdraw]

A little more of Chatgpt "hallucinating".

 

[NauticalGent]

Last week, my boss asked me to look into an email issue that our company was having. Lots of details that I wont bore you with, but she figured since I knew how to automate Outlook with Access that I would be able to figure this out.

I took that issues and presented them to Chatty who gave me about 6 explanations for the issues we were experiencing. I took the one that made the most sense and even though I guessed wrong , it made the lightbulb come on with the OL Exchange team who fixed the real problem.

My company's VP thinks I am a genius and my boss looks like a talented manager for giving this to the right person... I suppose I should tell them the truth, but who am I to argue with the boss??

 

[Isaac]

Programmers are history!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761483377365152234

With every generation of programming languages, they have thought it would replace smart technical designers; it never happened.

The cobol programmer may despise VB; the VB programmer may despise SQL; the SQL programmer may despise Python; the Python programmer may despise a no-code drag 'n drop.
Each one sees the generation that came after them as too-natural-language-y, not requiring a serious knowledge of computers.
(I.E., are you old enough to even remember when being good at Math was a prerequisite to computer programming? I'm not!)

But nonetheless, they all have jobs and jobs aplenty. They may despise their successors in the abstract, but there are Python jobs that pay as much as cobol jobs.

Teaching kids to code will simply take on new meaning, as it has taken on new meaning 100 times already.

One interesting thought: So "talking" to the AI requires a LOT of thought and care, as we have all found out now from getting garbage out of ChatGPT and its (already-many) rivals. Does this mean that people will actually have to start learning to communicate with precision again, something that has been largely lost in the last 20 years?

I think that would be a great thing. To "talk" to AI effectively, you have to say and write things correctly, or you'll reap what you sow.

Maybe teaching kids to code will mean the alphabet once more, lol

 

[NauticalGent]

Karl would disagree with the title of this thread!

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/luisefreese_ai-activity-7190626581940183041-9uX2

 

[Isaac]

Lemme tell you, the mere title of this thread annoys me every time I log on to it. I just can't get past my disagreement with it - I say this somewhat tongue in cheek, chuckling at my own petty grievance - but seriously, I think it has a good place (50%), and the other (50%) I think it is total crap and people who rely on it to provide good quality code or answers have already begun to suffer quite a bit. It is easily detectable as plagiarism, it makes things up, it fails to detect simple coding errors, it is woke, it refuses to address many topics.
That said, it is still good for some things, but I'd stop way short of being in love. Google is already past it as it provides AI in all its answers now, except it ADDITIONALLY already knows you - which is something chatgpt will never have.

 

[Jon]

AI is going to be a game changer in medicine. Check this out: https://newatlas.com/technology/google-med-gemini-ai/

Example #1

Example #2

Source: https://newatlas.com/technology/google-med-gemini-ai/

 

[Isaac]

Oh God, I hope it changes the game for the better and not for the worse.

I already absolutely hate the % of my doctors' advice that comes from them sitting there Googling things. Can't wait until they do it in the open instead of trying to hide it

If I wanted to Google the answer, I wouldn't have paid $150 to a so called 'expert'.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I had Vertigo a few years ago, my doctor says to me do you have youtube? I said yes. He referred me to a video I had already watched before seeing him. it's all good.

 

[jdraw]

Isaac and Tony, et al
The more I attempt to use Chatgpt and CoPilot(Bing Chat) productively, the more I am becoming convinced that the major beneficiaries of these tools will be/are the scammers. As with a lot of technology, the "bad guys" have an intrinsic knack for making the best/worst? use for their own purposes.
Remember when we had 8 char alphanumeric passwords... now it's 12 or more characters that include uppercase letters, lowercase letters, numbers, and special characters.

 

[Jon]

In 5 years time there is a good chance we have super-intelligence. Then, is this the end of human invention with characters like Leonardo and Albert Einstein, because the new AI's will be inventing everything far better and faster than any human possibly can?

 

[jdraw]

Good point Jon, but I expect the scammers will find a way to infect those new tools and cause havoc. I don't foresee a steady, positive state of things. Let's hope there's more good than harm.
I'm thinking of recent articles about new drugs/cosmetics, batteries... only to see that there are warnings.advisories that such and such drug or product is counterfeit and can cause harm. I do recall an older documentary of Aircraft engine failures (bearings).... scammers providing inferior bearings and packaging them perfectly in Federal-Mogul package materials.