Paris Hilton - out of Jail

Poor girl (so to speak). She's just misunderstood. Possible compromise: Make Paris Hilton stay 45 days in Waukegan's Best Value Inn...
 
This is great - the judge was right to do this the people have given him/her the power to set sentances
Now i am not one to howl on about this - but her crying and asking for her mother, seems about right as part of the punishiment - had she hit someone how would that person or that persons family feel

doing a bit of time might be the best time for her

as to her state of mind - I would presume that the judge was also aware of this and took this into consideration , -
good on the judge, the sheriff on the other hand

- needs looking into there must of been some backhanders here.

I think enough has been said on this (well by me at least)
She will do her time - and then she can go back to doing whatever she does- my view on her means little - as she has little impact on me other than this sentence

i don't wish her harm, and hope that this helps her out of her shallow exisitances and gives her a bit more depth ..

g
 
Now that would be just downright inhumane :D

Yes, no doubt. OK, then, if she cooks and cleans she can use a spare bedroom at my place for 45 days...assuming Mrs. Pono signs off on the deal...
 
I would say that's highly doubtful. She probably doesn't even know what a sponge is, unless of course, it's a loofah.

A loofah for a loafer? That's lovely.

Plan C: She can stay at my place if she does some coding. I assume she's a bright bulb...
 
OK, then, if she cooks and cleans . . .

MrsGorilla said:
I would say that's highly doubtful. She probably doesn't even know what a sponge is

bet she does, it's inbred that women do the housework, thats part of their function in life.
Like staying at home and looking after the kid(s) whilst hubby goes to work, no point in having a kid if it's going to be brought up by strangers - may as well have it adopted.

Col
 
Is there any thread where Rich and Col don't derail it into a UK USA slagging match?
Can't we just get along and slag off Robert Mugabe or Vladimir putin.

I mean here is a thread about air head of a celeb doing what she dose best, make the papers, and it has to be dragged down by you two who insist on turning it into a metaphor for US foreign policy for the past 200 years. (Please feel free to pick that apart, step over the meaning and point out that you are only interested in the past 173 years).

For Gods sake boys keep it in your pants and join in some wholesome celeb bashing with the rest of the world.

Its an’t OJ, no one is dead, she is behaving like a spoiled child and it is southern California. Nothing is real there.

Now, just point and laugh. Go on you can do it.
 
I mean here is a thread about air head of a celeb doing what she dose best, make the papers, and it has to be dragged down by you two who insist on turning it into a metaphor for US foreign policy for the past 200 years.

I'm unclear where I went into the US foreign policy. The American justice system. . . yes, because it's corrupt and has double standards - as most other posters here have noted.
I did mention Guantanamo, where people are held for years without trial by the US and equating that to Ms Hilton who got out of jail in 3 days just for crying.

There's no point in going on about Mugabe or Putin - surveys on the USA's populace have shown many have trouble locating Europe, and many think Austria is the same as Australia. So Zimbabwe and Russia are totally alien places.

Col
 
colin-

The judge was equally pissed off with this and sent her back -I am of the opion that there were a few backhanders going on - but not with the judge - see previous posts on this

Also Guantanamo
Colin Powell - has gone on record that if he was in charge - these camps would be closed - the "prisoners" would be put into a US jail- and tried according to US law- (international laws etc)

So although the current policital setup is arse about face and wrong - there are policitians out there how are taking a stand- and trying to push the policies in the right direction.

the thing with big organisations (Goverments/Religions/ Even Large companies)
it takes a lot of work to move them from 1 path to another.

Us Brits are just as guilty on not moving fast enough, and some of our judgements have been at best weak, and occasionaly flawed - Jeffory Archer being on, and the current cash 4 honours debarcle (typo)

espically when Tony's best mate is in charge of the investigation ..
its all well to throw mud at a system that you think is corrupt (I do as well on occasions) - but we need to take an object look at ours - otherwise we will be labeled as arrogant anti-american ...
which is not true of all of us, I do not hate, despise any nation, there are things I detest in politics and in general - but this I can look at , and I try to be objective , If I see a flaw , then is this same flaw or one similar also present in our culture, way of life - i may still object, rant and rave about it , but try to levle this with the same view on our way of life.

I am begining to ramble ....
 
As to Putin-

This is something that has an air of "Brainwashing" on it

THe Americanian have been brought up with Communisim is an "evil" thing and that the communisits are the devils own..
Not sure why..but they have

the idea of everyone been treated equally sounds great, and the wealth spread equally amonst everyone, have sounds good , does that mean we all get a porcshe , afraid not, in the end it means we all get a skateboard (that has to be shared between a family of 4 -
it doesn't work, however hte Americans have had it drummed on to their ears , that the communists are coming - and this seems to be treated as the day of judgement -

Communisism doesn't work, purly down to peoples greed, capitiism - works on this greed factor , if you want a nice car then work for it , if you want more money ,then work hard.


again I ramble
 
colin-

The judge was equally pissed off with this and sent her back
I know that

Also Guantanamo Colin Powell - has gone on record that if he was in charge - these camps would be closed -
He's not in charge - never will be so it's easy to say that

Us Brits are just as guilty on not moving fast enough, and some of our judgements have been at best weak, and occasionaly flawed
True - but we're talking of the USA here and the Ms Hilton case. It'll be the same in the Phil Spector case too, as it was in the OJ case.

we will be labeled as arrogant anti-american ...
which will be wrong of course. The reason we all laugh and poke fun at the USA is because the USA always seems to court this response and if a word is said against it, one automatically becomes anti-American. It's paranoia in the extreme.
I do not hate, despise any nation,
only the French - but they hate and despise us too - as they have done for around 900 years

Col
 
Ill give you the French -(its mutual, ):)


Does the US court this, I don't think it does , the majority of people out there were equally annoyed/disgusted over P.Hilton, the real question is , if there had not been such a fuss over this would the judge drag PH back and sent her back to jail...
this is one that we can only speculate over .

As to the rest, Its easy to pop holes in other people views etc and if its constantly the US . then we get labelled as anti- us ,

part of the problem may be that as an english speaking site , there bound to be more Yanks than anyone else, given populations etc...
also due to the fact that US news is probably more globally accessable than say the Ozzies (unless its cricket/rugby)

this then does put its self in the limelight -


as to Colin Powell probably never being in office - well yeah.. but if he was would your stance on US polictics change given his views and reputation (typo?)
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The reason we all laugh and poke fun at the USA is because the USA always seems to court this response

Here's an example of why the USA is a laughing stock (apart from the Hilton joke)

BUNGLING BUSH CALLS POPE 'SIR'
By Stephen Hayward 10/06/2007

GAFFE-prone President George Bush embarrassed onlookers yesterday by continually calling the Pope "Sir".

Vatican aides cringed as he breached protocol during his audience with the pontiff, who is supposed to be addressed as "Your Holiness".

Mr Bush also failed to bow when he met Pope Benedict and told him as he shook his hand: "It's great to be here."

Later Bush had more trouble during his one-day visit to Rome when his limousine stalled and held up the motorcade.

Having restarted, the car then couldn't squeeze through the US Embassy gates forcing Bush to walk.

Riot police used tear gas on anti-US demonstrators as he met Italy's PM Romano Prodi.

ref

If the president can't conduct himself with the proper etiquette - that demonstrates total incompetency by his advisors and staff.

Col
 
as to Colin Powell probably never being in office - well yeah.. but if he was would your stance on US polictics change given his views and reputation (typo?)

Mr Powell will never be in office because he's got the lick of the tarbrush and also he has difficulty in pronouncing his own name - if I pronounced my name (Colin) like he does, people would think I had a speech impediment.

First off I thought he was ok. Till I heard him say he pronounced his name differently to normal because he wanted to be "identified above the rest":rolleyes: (I think that was on Wogans show on BBC a few years back) arrogant sod.

Col
 
RE the Pope
If I met him I would call him Sir
Not catholic and Sir is gerenally considered to be a polite way of greeting someone whos rank is above you or indoubt over rank and postion

The Dalilama is meant to be called His holiness - amost others (Considered to be a lvivng god)
no idea what to call the arch bishop of canterbury - bishops = cardinals and are genreally "your Grace"

Meet Prince of Wales - and I called him Sir - not your higness/magesty (I could not quite wrap my head round this one) - but Sir is an acknowledgement of politeness and that the person is above =equal to yourself, and or is a respectful title --

Waiters/Waitress genrally call men Sir ladies madam and very few get upset over it

I am sure the Pope could not really care , as it does depend upon how he speaks to you, if he speaks as pontif - ie the voice of the RC church then he speaks on behalf of God, if he speaks as himself then he speaks as first bishop or whatever of Rome and if e speaks on a personal level hecan either speak as a preist or as a private individual -
as it happens I think the guys a knob, but hey - I would still give him the respectful title of Sir
 
Gary - I agree and disagree.

For normal people like you and me then "Sir" is ok - even if he is a knob.

For the President of the USA and of the Free World and destructor of mankind, it's not good enough.
Our Queen (God Bless Her) is advised and instructed on etiquette (if needed)

To have a bumbling Yank (who has dozens of advisors) incorrectly addressing the Pope is not acceptable at that level. Christ, Bush even thinks he's from Texas when in actual fact he's from Connecticut, he's nearly brain dead if he can't remember where he was born.

Anyway, the story was to demonstrate how the UK press will make fun of the USA / President at the drop of a hat. If the media (including the BBC) can get a dig in, or expose the stupidity of what the USA does then it will.

These type of stories appear in the UK press every day

Col
 
agree
but for the likes of me and you an "Sir/Madam" would be enough

If Queenie turned up , Madam or ma'am, and if you could swing it you could probably get away with queenie - as long as you got a laugh out of it she would find this funny
Philip on the other hand would probbaly shoot you

State occasions then correct forms of address should be adhered to. the Queens will bow here head to a foreign flag , she will also bow her head to the Pope,as the pope would bow his back , the dal lami(i am sure i am spelling this wrong) well do the ritutial (typo) greet - palsm together and a slight bow and the queen responds back with a bow.

Queens versus living god- now there one for the etiquette guys to sort
 

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