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I have been earnestly praying for peace. Haven't been sure what else to say... There isn't much to debate on this one.

So much for all Bidens bragging about putting Putin in his place, and bragging that if they elected Trump, "think what could happen to Ukraine". Oops, got that backwards buddy..
 
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Judge Jeanine decries Putin's 'inflated' ego | Fox News Video

Judge Jeanine Pirro reacts to Russia's invasion of Ukraine on 'The Five.'
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The major point made by Judge Jeanine Pirro concerning Biden is near the end.
The abbreviated summary: Judge Pirro points-out that Biden's self-serving political objective to minimize suffering in the US is not working. The residents of both the US and the Ukraine are suffering for the simple reason that Biden has refused to rescind his personal illogical "war" on domestic hydrocarbon production in the US.
 
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Isaac said:
I have been earnestly praying for peace. Haven't been sure what else to say... There isn't much to debate on this one.

So much for all Bidens bragging about putting Putin in his place, and bragging that if they elected Trump, "think what could happen to Ukraine". Oops, got that backwards buddy..
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As much as i believe a lot in prayer, i think some other leaders for selfish reasons encourage putin to go ahead, when russia invaded cremia years ago, nothing concrete was done by Global leaders except lip service and sanctions, more of such actions will be done by the leaders of the countries i mentioned in my previous post, once putin succeeds in his take over of ukraine, he hates and feels in secured with the popularity of the current ukraine president.
 
Jon said:
Sanctions do mean something. The stock market has collapsed in Russia, businesses are hit, access to raw materials cut, inflation will rise, civilians will be unhappy. The sanctions when they annexed Crimea were too small though. It cut GDP in Russia by 1%. Useless!
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Sanctions have not worked in curbing Putin's excesses.
 
Just to toss this in and also as a reminder. Think of all the US military equipment abandoned in Afghanistan. Potentially this could equipment could have been made available to the Ukraine had it been withdrawn before the US left Afghanistan.
www.ammoland.com

Here is a detailed breakdown of all the US equipment abandoned to the Taliban (and it's a LOT)

At least 600,000+ Small arms M16, M249 SAWs, M24 Sniper Systems, 50 Calibers, 1,394 M203 Grenade Launchers, M134 Mini Gun, 20mm Gatling Guns and Ammunition
www.ammoland.com www.ammoland.com
 
Steve R. said:
Just to toss this in and also as a reminder. Think of all the US military equipment abandoned in Afghanistan.
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Why would the US Govt leave behind such an amount of weapons, these weapons if it falls into wrong hands can lead to more war and instability in Afghanistan.
 
Speaking of incompetence. The Biden administration, according to the New York Times, requested that China assist the US in avoiding a war in the Ukraine. Instead of helping the US in this regard, China rebuffed the US, shared the information given to them by the US with Russia, and (China) even took the side of Russia! What did the Biden administration expect?

This disclosure, surprisingly, appeared in the New York Times which is unabashedly pro-Biden. So its curious as to why the Times would publish such an article? I was unable to read it due to a pay-wall. So the National Review article will have to suffice.
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Biden Shared Intel with China — and China, Naturally, Shared That Intel with Russia | National Review

Russia and China have had a complicated, often contentious, relationship, but they are probably closer today than ever before.
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Each time, the Chinese officials, including the foreign minister and the ambassador to the United States, rebuffed the Americans, saying they did not think an invasion was in the works. After one diplomatic exchange in December, U.S. officials got intelligence showing Beijing had shared the information with Moscow, telling the Russians that the United States was trying to sow discord — and that China would not try to impede Russian plans and actions, the officials said.
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Moreover, Biden's foreign policy incompetence has been "pushing" both Russia and China to form a cooperative alliance of convenience. For the US, this is bad as the US will be facing adversaries on two fronts.
Historically speaking, Russia and China have had a complicated, often contentious, relationship, but they are probably closer today than ever before. The two recently signed a huge energy pact that allows Putin to weather the pain of Western sanctions. Then again, China also helped Russia endure sanctions after Crimea went the way of Tibet. So why would anyone believe that “President” Xi Jinping, who views the existence of Taiwan much in the same way Putin views the existence of Ukraine — or rather, non-existence — do anything to dissuade an invasion in the first place?
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oleronesoftwares said:
So Americans will after 4 years vote out the government?
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A bit more complicated. Mid-term elections will be occurring in November 2022. That may change the "look and feel" of the legislative branch, but not the executive branch (the office of the President). So there may be a partial change to how the government functions as a consequence of the election.

There is also the problem of the "deep state", which is more or less, the established bureaucracy. You may want to take a look here: "The Deep State Exposed II (AKA Military/Industrial Complex)". The concern here, is that any new President may not actually be able to change and/or control the "government" as the people in the bureaucracy "slow walk" (resist) implementing policy changes. That was one of the major problems that Trump had when he assumed the office of the Presidency.
 
Steve R. said:
There is also the problem of the "deep state", which is more or less, the established bureaucracy. You may want to take a look here: "The Deep State Exposed II (AKA Military/Industrial Complex)". The concern here, is that any new President may not actually be able to change and/or control the "government" as the people in the bureaucracy "slow walk" (resist) implementing policy changes. That was one of the major problems that Trump had when he assumed the office of the Presidency.
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Thank you for the enlightenment, I will check the link.
 
Pat Hartman said:
If the world hasn't been burnt to a crisp by nuclear war first.

There is an election in November of this year. It is what we call a "mid-term" since it is halfway between presidential election cycles. Every member of the House of Representatives serves two year terms so 100% of the House members are up for reelection in November. The Democrats have only a very small majority 222-212 in the House,
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How well can the house of reps influence the executive, in my home country, the house of rep is more vibrant than the upper chamber, and they have in the past helped to make positive changes to Government.
 
conception_native_0123 said:
i don't even know why the war started. why does russia have an interest in ukraine, anyway? someone want to enlighten me?
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Ukraine was showing interest in becoming a nato member and Russians are not keen on that idea? Or the Russians are looking for dirt on Hillary and Hunter to help Trump in 2024
 
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