What is the universe expanding into? (1 Viewer)

[vba_php]

You have missed the point. Space does not exist except in Universes. You are imagining what could be described as NullSpace, roughly the equivalent of NullString. The Universe expands into Nothing.

it was a joke, dude. I wasn't comparing db bytes to cosmos bytes. my goodness.....and the universe expands into nothing? I don't think that's actually been proven, because the pros can't see that far to verify it. correct? but from a christian point of view, it goes right back to the fact that only God knows that because it is uncomprehendable to the human brain.

 

[AccessBlaster]

The universe is nothing more then a sphere, a balloon if you will. Surrounded by dark matter, as the pressure rises with in the sphere it pushes exponentially outwards. BTW there are many of these spheres not just the one God created for our viewing pleasure.

 

[vba_php]

that's all speculation, AB. that type of research is seriously insane. that's way beyond common sense. any faithful person would probably leave that stuff alone, as there's no purpose is stretching a human brain to that length.

 

[Jon]

@AccessBlaster Nice analogy.

How do we know if the universe is expanding? We might all be shrinking instead!

 

[vba_php]

@AccessBlaster Nice analogy.

How do we know if the universe is expanding? We might all be shrinking instead!

u also think too much mr. Leader. at least I hope ur having fun with this thread! U seem to always have a smile on ur face....

 

[AccessBlaster]

How do we know if the universe is expanding? We might all be shrinking instead!

How Do Scientists Know the Universe is Expanding? <link

In 1929 the astronomer Edwin Hubble measured the velocities of a large selection of galaxies. He expected that about equal numbers would be moving toward and away from us. After all, the Earth isn't a particularly special place in the universe.
Instead, he discovered that almost all galaxies are moving away from us!

Since the time of Hubble we have observed millions of galaxies with better equipment and verified his results. With the exception of a small handful of galaxies close to us, every galaxy is moving away from us.

And in fact, the farther away a galaxy is the faster it is moving away from us. This fits in very well with Einstein's predictions. The galaxies seem to be receding from us because the entire universe is getting larger. The space in between the galaxies is stretching!

 

[CJ_London]

perhaps God is Dark Matter - it is everywhere

 

[Steve R.]

The Universe may neither be shrinking nor expanding. The expansion of the Universe is based on measuring "red shift". But consider this, over time, energy looses "strength". So a figurative "blue" light, as it travels for billions of years and interacts with matter could develop a "red" tinge. Perhaps light somehow "ages" or is otherwise affected by "friction". How valid the "Tired Light Theory" is unknown, but worth investigating. It simply stretches credibility and common sense that the further an object is from the the Earth that is moving away from the Earth (based on distance) is always moving at a faster rate. Think Occam's razor.

Tired Light Wikipedia

Tired Light Denies the Big Bang

More and more problems related to Big Bang have been appeared in recent years. All the problems are due to the Doppler interpretation of redshift. The “tired light” theory, proposed in 1929 by Zwicky and most recently developed by Shao in 2013, gives a new explanation for redshift. The theory has shown that the redshift is induced from the energy loss of photons by the interaction with material particles on their journey through cosmological space. The basic principles related to the energy transfer are mainly the mass-energy equivalence and the Lorentz theory. Problems, such as super velocity, the horizon problem, the cosmological microwave background radiation, and Olbers’ paradox, vanish in the cosmological model of “tired light” theory. The model describes a boundless and timeless Cosmos.

 

[AccessBlaster]

What is the universe expanding into?

Dark matter.

 

[vba_php]

perhaps God is Dark Matter - it is everywhere

that might not be pleasing for him to hear but at least u didn't say that the son has an evil spirit. That's an unforgivable event.

 

[Leo_Polla_Psemata]

Hi there.
Certain ideas are not comprehensible by our notion/perception.
We can only come a bit closer to it through examples and "big bang" is an example of it.
A chicken or a goat, cannot understand certain numbers. Five eggs or 10 eggs, or 6 eggs and two chicken doesn't make difference.
A worm cannot comprehend the third dimension. Only width and length. Height doesn't exist for the worm unless it is gets grabbed by a bird.

Our grand grand fathers, couldn't understand how come it is noon in Europe while it is midnight in China, summer in Zealand
but winter in New Zealand. We have understood this idea because we have flown with airplanes and have experienced that.

The universe is still far outside our sphere of understanding.

From many documentaries i have watched, the big bang was not an explosion in one point which happened to push matter to everywhere.
This "big bang" point was the everywhere.
We try to comprehend ideas by using geometry for dimensions on Earth, not in Universe. In Universe we use other geometries where parallel
lines do not exist.

 

[Jon]

Our grand grand fathers, couldn't understand how come it is noon in Europe while it is midnight in China, summer in Zealand
but winter in New Zealand.

Flat earth conspiracy theorists still can't understand why.

This "big bang" point was the everywhere.

Why not the big shrink? There was something tiny and all of a sudden, everything inside of that tiny became smaller and more granular.

 

[Leo_Polla_Psemata]

Flat earth conspiracy theorists still can't understand why.

Malakes and malakia exist everywhere and stil govern the world I am afraid.
For these unknown words, check a Greek English dictionary.

In Greek μαλακία μαλάκας , because google translator gives a wrong result.

Why not the big shrink? There was something tiny and all of a sudden, everything inside of that tiny became smaller and more granular.

Because the Universe is expanding, not shrinking, we have no idea what was the everything like few miniseconds before the big bang.

 

[Jon]

How do we know it is expanding rather than everything in it shrinking?

 

[Leo_Polla_Psemata]

How do we know it is expanding rather than everything in it shrinking?

Since 1920 or 1930, this is confirmed by telescope data, Edwin Hubble was the astronomer who first proved this.

Edwin Hubble - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[vba_php]

How do we know it is expanding rather than everything in it shrinking?

because Jon! The astronomers of the world have proven that 100% for man years now. watch the show called "The Universe". I believe the episode is called "Multi-Verse". they interview a lot of top astronomers and they tell you that they are certain the universe is expanding. the people they interview are from places like MIT, USC in California, and Caltech.

 

[Jon]

The Universe is expanding relative to us. But if we shrink, the perception of the Universe expanding is the same. What do you measure the size of the Universe against to prove it is expanding rather than us shrinking? There is nothing else to measure it against.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Hubble originally thought the universe was expanding relative to earth, he eventually proved the universe is expanding relative to everything.

 

[Leo_Polla_Psemata]

The Universe is expanding relative to us. But if we shrink, the perception of the Universe expanding is the same. What do you measure the size of the Universe against to prove it is expanding rather than us shrinking? There is nothing else to measure it against.

"relative to us." You mean, "us", the Earth and the minkind ? us= our solar system ? Define the "us".


The Universe is expanding relative to stellar observations made by Earth.

 

[Jon]

Us, as in everything inside of the universe. You see, what is the difference between the Universe expanding and all the contents of the Universe shrinking? It is a relative difference between the two. To the observer, or the astronomer, the Universe appears to be getting bigger. But wouldn't they perceive the same thing if they and everything inside the Universe was shrinking?

I posit the question: is it not more feasible that the contents of something are shrinking, rather than the entity itself (the Universe) is expanding into nothing, which is basically the theory. There is nothing but the Universe, but it is expanding. Into what? Nothing!