Col's last day

[Vassago]

I don't needle people, it's just that you're so picky and argumentative and you refuse to listen to reason, as usual, the USA [thinks] it knows best.

Col

...and as usual, Col clumps the entire country into one single entity.

...and as usual, another thread talking politics.

I'm remembering why I don't come here any more...we used to get along much better when NO ONE talked politics.

 

[ColinEssex]

we used to get along much better when NO ONE talked politics.

For those who haven't been here long enough. The 3 banned subjects used to be - politics, religion and sex.

Sadly it all changed in 2003 when the USA decided to cleanse the world of anything other than their own brand of dictatorship.

Col

 

[Len Boorman]

See Col ain't gone at all

 

[dan-cat]

See Col ain't gone at all

I'm sure the 'to-do list' is just around the corner

 

[Vassago]

For those who haven't been here long enough. The 3 banned subjects used to be - politics, religion and sex.

Sadly it all changed in 2003 when the USA decided to cleanse the world of anything other than their own brand of dictatorship.

Col

But why do you feel the need to talk politics on an Access forum? You have nothing better to do?

(my ploy to keep Colin in AW is working...)

 

[Rich]

I'm sure the 'to-do list' is just around the corner

There's only one item on the to do list, keep reminding Americans what Bush has inflicted on the world

 

[MrsGorilla]

There's only one item on the to do list, keep reminding Americans what Bush has inflicted on the world

There are plenty of other places to do that, if you feel the need. Too bad the once pleasant atmosphere here has been spoiled and many long time members have already left because of it.

 

[Rich]

There are plenty of other places to do that, if you feel the need. Too bad the once pleasant atmosphere here has been spoiled and many long time members have already left because of it.

I can't think of anyone specific, but members have come and gone ever since I first started here, many of whom never even ventured into the cooler.

 

[MrsGorilla]

I can't think of anyone specific, but members have come and gone ever since I first started here, many of whom never even ventured into the cooler.

I know of a few...

 

[ColinEssex]

But why do you feel the need to talk politics on an Access forum? You have nothing better to do?

It's not an Access forum, it's a watercooler where one can discuss various topics, also, I feel that discussing world politics is extremely important, expecially when the stability of the world is being screwed by the USA's foreign policies. Worldwide, there is no improvement on terrorist activities since 2003, in fact it's a whole lot worse.

Just because the USA caught a cold on 11/9/2001, then the whole world has to suffer because of it. Thats why people in Iraq want the USA out and a Saddam figure returned who can bring stability once again to that area.

Col

 

[MrsGorilla]

It's not an Access forum, it's a watercooler where one can discuss various topics,

That's true, the Watercooler is for non-Access topics. Too bad the atmosphere has been so poisoned by a few just because they don't agree with American politics. It used to be a pleasant place to come visit.

also, I feel that discussing world politics is extremely important, expecially when the stability of the world is being screwed by the USA's foreign policies.

Perhaps it is, but I still don't feel that this is the best place for that. Go join a politics forum somewhere and you can debate to your heart's content and bash Americans all you want.

Worldwide, there is no improvement on terrorist activities since 2003, in fact it's a whole lot worse.

I don't have any figures on that, do you have anything to back that argument up? Terrorism has been going on forever, and probably will go on forever, no matter what anyone or any government does.

Just because the USA caught a cold on 11/9/2001, then the whole world has to suffer because of it.

Yes, it's unfortunate that's the way it is. I wish Sept. 11th had never happened too.

Thats why people in Iraq want the USA out and a Saddam figure returned who can bring stability once again to that area.

I'm sure that's debatable as well. No doubt they need peace and stability over there, but another Saddam is the last thing they need. I think many over there are still happy he's gone, although the current situation is clearly unacceptable too.

Anyway, I'm done talking about it. Respond all you like, it's all been said before (again and again and again ad nauseum )Like I said before, I still love ya and wish you the best in your retirement. I hope that the happier Col can also make an appearance from time to time.

 

[Rich]

I know of a few...

Aside from one, who's leaving had nothing to do with me, left because they moved jobs and lost their unfettered access to the forum

 

[Rich]

Too bad the atmosphere has been so poisoned by a few

A few is normally regarded as more than two, who else did you have in mind other than those two who are usually blamed for everything

 

[ColinEssex]

No doubt they need peace and stability over there, but another Saddam is the last thing they need.

Thats an American opinion, not necessarily the opinion of many Iraqi's. It's what the USA does best, try to tell the world what it wants instead of listening to what the world actually wants.

Col

 

[Brianwarnock]

I feel sad that my little farewell thread has been hi jacked but I geuss that's life, and since it has here's my 2 penny's worth.

As I understand it Muslims' view of God is different to Christians' they see Him as a strong master and they His servants, I feel that they want the same from their countries' leaders as well.

On a similar note ordinary Russians are quoted as prefferring life under Stalin than the wishy washy democracies that followed the fall of communism, those still alive that is, ordinary folk like to know where they stand so that they can get on with life's struggles.

Brian

 

[GaryPanic]

I feel sad that my little farewell thread has been hi jacked but I geuss that's life, and since it has here's my 2 penny's worth.

As I understand it Muslims' view of God is different to Christians' they see Him as a strong master and they His servants, I feel that they want the same from their countries' leaders as well.

On a similar note ordinary Russians are quoted as prefferring life under Stalin than the wishy washy democracies that followed the fall of communism, those still alive that is, ordinary folk like to know where they stand so that they can get on with life's struggles.

Brian

It's not like the old days ....



in the end its probably how you have been brought up - if we take some of the Muslim countires - these countires are pretty much 3rd world and the young are educated with little access to alternative religions and views

this does lead to a dictorial (?) upbring where you belive what youa re told ,
and a good way of managing a country , however this does lead to resentment as only a few can be in power, and the few then have to resort to violence to maintain their power base(I generalise here)
a good way to get people on your side is to have an enermy - the Yanks/ or the Western world etc.. and promise them rich's whent hey are in heaven, now this doesn't work so well in countries that have a mixture of cultures as long as those countires are accepting of alternative cultures (there are always going to be a few exceptions , as i am sure that some of the UK terrorism are either damaged goods - nut cases not fireing on all 4 cylinders, or are"brained washed into it0 these people do seem to be men aged in there early/late 20's?)

anyway i ramble on (again)

 

[ColinEssex]

NHS retirement, Day 3 and still going on ok. Cleared out the garage today, amazing what junk one collects over the years.

Got notification today from the Criminal Records check (for the part time job I hope to get with Essex Ambulance) - all clear, so my little misdemeanour when I was 17 has been deleted!

And the nice Halifax told me how much I owe them if I want to clear my mortgage when I get my NHS pension lump sum

Off to Homebase now to get some brackets to put up the garage shelves with

Col

 

[Brianwarnock]

Don't do all the jobs in too much of a hurry, don't forget that the "to do list" is a rolling list, plus you could be setting standards difficult to maintain.

Brian

 

[dan-cat]

Don't do all the jobs in too much of a hurry, don't forget that the "to do list" is a rolling list, plus you could be setting standards difficult to maintain.

Brian

Yes the precedent being set is cause for concern...

 

[Friday]

Well, I don't come in here as much as I used to, but it's due to work, not Rich and Col. Col, I'm going to drink to your retirement tonight. Thanks for all the kind words when they were needed, and thanks for making us think globally from time to time.