I now think B Obama is the best choice for America and the world

I agree And they like to remain that way. I could not do without them BUT they will always be there.

Good, because the best and fastest payers I have are "ordinary folk" not the rich or those aspiring to be rich and get there by ripping everybody off!:mad:
 
Alls fair in Love and War and seemingly American presidential elections.:D

I must admit to being surprised by the very right wing views expressed on this forum. Some people here appear to regard Attilla the Hun and Ghengis Khan as dangerously left wing.

Barack Obama is going to win this election - get used to it - you are going to have to live with it.
 
Re: I now think B Obama is NOT the best choice for America and the world

This is really scary but true - - - - -
You couldn't be a new lawyer with 143 days of experience and become a partner in my law firm.
You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143
days of experience of being a surgeon.
You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days of experience.
You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.


But....

'From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of "experience" in the Senate.
That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
After 143 days of work "experience," Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World .... 143 days. We all have to start somewhere. The senate is a good start, but after 143 days, that's all it is - a start. AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public is okay with this and campaigning for him. We
wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet some are okay with this for the President of the United States of America ?
Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol!

You and Bob are quite the team of ignorant fools. I am really starting to lose my patience with all these lies. By all means, criticize Obama all day long, there is plenty to criticize. Why resort to blatant lies and nonsense?

Obama has authored or co-sponsored 579 bills in Washington and 820 laws for Illinois as a state senator. 579+820 = 1399 bills.

Are you seriously trying to argue that someone who has brought 1399 bills to the legislature has NO experience? Really?
 
Alisa,

You are choosing to miss the point.

No one has a right to anything. Rights granted to one person or one group will usually mean Rights being removed from another person or group.

And from your post...The rest of us average folk should just suck it up and suffer. Yes and because you have chosen to be an "average folk". I know of no law in the US of A that mandates you to be "average folk". I know of no law in the US of A that legislates that you have to stay in your job.

As a side note, do you really think "it is fair" for you to expect people like me to subsidise people like you?

Mike, I think it is YOU that is choosing to miss the point. The question is NOT should some people subsidize other people. The question is, why is the cost of medical care in the U.S. so outrageously expensive that even people who are successful and self-sufficient by any other measure still unable to afford it? And the answer is, because of the nightmare system of private insurance companies that we have, where the burden of the sickest and poorest is borne by the tax payer, and the profit from the healthiest people is reaped by the private insurers. Where there is such a hodgepodge of state and federal regulations that the industry can get away with denying necessary medical care to people that are insured. I could go on. But I will return to my original point, which is that you don't live here, and I don't believe that you understand how bad it is, and when I and millions of other Americans think our system needs to be fixed, then what gives you the right to tell me from accross the ocean that I don't deserve to fix something that is broken in my own country?
 
The question is, why is the cost of medical care in the U.S. so outrageously expensive ...

Take a look at the cost of drugs. Take a look at comparison of drug prices in some countries versus others made by the same manufacturer. American drug prices are higher because we subsidize the cost of drugs in other countries (our GDP is higher as a basis of comparison). This one real reason why politicians who get money from drug companies don't want us to get medications over the internet .. the drug companies profits aren't where they should be and they can't sell a lower cost drug somewhere else. Although politicians will tell us "it's to protect us and for our safety" because they aren't as regulated somewhere else, but they won't mention the economies in there. Although a valid point, I argue that isn't the compelling reason.

It's still all about econonmy and subsidation. Companies in America do it. A major company (say technical company) for example will have two different prices for two different companies based on their 10k reports that are filed. They push the envelope on what they think that company can afford. The less price for the smaller company and the high price for the larger one, averages out so the company makes a profit. This is why companies have to sign a disclosure statement saying they will not release the cost of the contract if the technical service is the same.

-dk
 
then what gives you the right to tell me from accross the ocean that I don't deserve to fix something that is broken in my own country?
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I don't disagree with your sentiment in the thread but I would just like to point out that Mike doesn't live across the water but in the land of the upside down, where even the water doesn't flow in the right direction;)
 
I don't disagree with your sentiment in the thread but I would just like to point out that Mike doesn't live across the water but in the land of the upside down, where even the water doesn't flow in the right direction;)
I know, that it why I try to cut him some slack most of the time.
:D
 
I know, that it why I try to cut him some slack most of the time.
:D

Australia is extremely American. It tries very hard to be as flash, slick, large, loud and as irritating as Americans - and achieves it very well.

It even copies the bush fires like they have in California, the snows in the mountains mimic Colorado etc etc. They even have their own little national games they play where very few outside the country give a toss.

Col
 
They even have their own little national games they play where very few outside the country give a toss.

Col
But at least they don't pretend they're world champions by having a world series for their local sports. And they do drive on the left.:D
 
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Re: I now think B Obama is NOT the best choice for America and the world

Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol

That must be why McCain's makeup artist is the same artist that American Idol uses.

That must be why McCain and Palin spent over 13k in September ALONE having their makeup done by this person

That must be why the McCain campaign spent 150k on new clothing for the entire Palin family.

I can't roll my eyes back far enough. :rolleyes:
 
Re: I now think B Obama is NOT the best choice for America and the world

That must be why McCain's makeup artist is the same artist that American Idol uses.

That must be why McCain and Palin spent over 13k in September ALONE having their makeup done by this person

That must be why the McCain campaign spent 150k on new clothing for the entire Palin family.

I can't roll my eyes back far enough. :rolleyes:

I can't imagine how you could possibly know this (or care).

Who does Obama and Biden's makeup? How much does that cost? Clothing? I'm sure it's plenty but, again, who cares.
 
X marks the spot

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Re: I now think B Obama is NOT the best choice for America and the world

I can't imagine how you could possibly know this (or care).

Who does Obama and Biden's makeup? How much does that cost? Clothing? I'm sure it's plenty but, again, who cares.

Who cares?
Hopefully the same people who call Obama a "celebrity" and spent days criticizing Edwards for his $400 haircut.

And I almost forgot, also, the people who complained that Newsweek didn't retouch Sarah Palin's photo before putting her on the cover.
 
Re: I now think B Obama is NOT the best choice for America and the world

Hopefully the same people who call Obama a "celebrity" and spent days criticizing Edwards for his $400 haircut.

Hey, it worked for Edwards. Seems like the price keeps going up though. I remember when people were upset that Clinton got a $200 hair cut on a Texas runway while tons of other planes couldn't take off or land. The thing people thought was important was the cost of the haircut. Sounds like he got a bargain now.

And I almost forgot, also, the people who complained that Newsweek didn't retouch Sarah Palin's photo before putting her on the cover.

Hmmm. Maybe that's why McCain is spending so much on this now. Were the figures you quoted pre-Newsweek or post-Newsweek? I guess if the way my running mate and his/her family looked was made an issue, it would be important enough to me to spend some money on it.

Richard Nixon found out the hard way in 1960 how important this is.

It is interesting, though.
 
Re: I now think B Obama is NOT the best choice for America and the world

Richard Nixon found out the hard way in 1960 how important this is.

Is that the shaving cream stuff incident? The stuff that was sposed to make it look like you just shaved but showed up on camera making him look like a thug?

-dK
 
Reading the posts here always bring me the image of that special boy running down the track...
 

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