Lets Stop George Bush before he Destroys the Whole Planet Earth.

[ShaneMan]

The figures for Texas don't support that theory

and what digging reference am I support to take from this statement? It's not a theory. I have a hard time seeing how you may such strong opinions on things that you don't live. We live here. We see it. Does "figures for Texas don't support that theory" suppose to mean we're a prejudice state so "of course" we would have a view point like that?

 

[ShaneMan]

That's it, blame and target the poor for the faults in your system, it's the easiest thing in the world for those that have employment to simply blame those that don't and point the finger at them.

Your wrong on this Rich. People can work in this country, if they want to. How is that even illegals can get jobs here, if they are not available. We have a fat system of people just living off of it and then complaining that they are not given enough. This is not a "black" prejudice statement cause there are more whites on welfare than blacks. It's just a fact. We have a system that not only helps the helpless but it's become a system of helping those who would rather stay home all day and do nothing.

 

[Bodisathva]

That's it, blame and target the poor for the faults in your system, it's the easiest thing in the world for those that have employment to simply blame those that don't and point the finger at them.

I'll give you a 'fer instance:My ex-wife worked with a woman who was collecting welfare, foodstamps, the whole nine-yards for not only herself and her three kids, but her non-employed, non-motivated husband as well. They came to the conclusion, and calculations supported it, that if they had one more child, their income would be raised to the point that she would no longer have to work. She got pregnant and just before the birth, she quit her job, never to even attempt to become gainfully employed since (had more kids, though )

Now, I'm not implying that all recipients are like that, but it goes to prove a point.

 

[ColinEssex]

I really don't think you can use Hollywood as a gauge. They have shown white men as cops going around killing everything is sight, blowing the crap out of a large city, yet that doesn't happen in real life.

The general Hollywood and TV trend is to show pimps and drug barons as predominately black. Some are white - true. But that is one reason as to why you may apparently see so many Mercs etc being driven by blacks.

American cops do not go around killing everything in sight - thats silly they are merely corrupt and inflict beatings should anyone cross them, like Rodney King for example.

Col

 

[Bodisathva]

like Rodney King for example.

The moron was strung out on crack, doing 100+mph in a Hyundai, and too stupid to stay down when 5 guys with big sticks told him too...

 

[ShaneMan]

The general Hollywood and TV trend is to show pimps and drug barons as predominately black. Some are white - true. But that is one reason as to why you may apparently see so many Mercs etc being driven by blacks.

True, they have done that. Not necessarily the trend now days though.

American cops do not go around killing everything in sight - thats silly they are merely corrupt and inflict beatings should anyone cross them, like Rodney King for example.
Col

Not going to bite on this one, but there is plenty more to the story than what you've stated.

 

[ColinEssex]

The moron was strung out on crack, doing 100+mph in a Hyundai, and too stupid to stay down when 5 guys with big sticks told him too...

Plus he was black, so it gave them the perfect excuse to dish out a beating.

Actually he needed a medal, getting 100mph out of a Hyundai is not easy
How about one of those badges the soldiers get for breaking a nail. . . . purple heart is it? when I was at school, that was a drug we used to take.

Col

 

[ShaneMan]

How about one of those badges the soldiers get for breaking a nail. . . . purple heart is it? when I was at school, that was a drug we used to take.
Col

Here's an example of the digging statements that are always thrown it, off subject and appears to me, to be totally unnecessary. You take something that we value and has honor and piss all over it. My dad was in the Army, my brother retired from the Army, and for me, this is something that has a place of honor. You, apparently, don't give a crap what anyone values....especially if they are American.

 

[KenHigg]

Here's an example of the digging statements that are always thrown it, off subject and appears to me, to be totally unnecessary. You take something that we value and has honor and piss all over it. My dad was in the Army, my brother retired from the Army, and for me, this is something that has a place of honor. You, apparently, don't give a crap what anyone values....especially if they are American.

Best post I've read in a long time -

 

[KenHigg]

Here's an example of the digging statements that are always thrown it, off subject and appears to me, to be totally unnecessary. You take something that we value and has honor and piss all over it. My dad was in the Army, my brother retired from the Army, and for me, this is something that has a place of honor. You, apparently, don't give a crap what anyone values....especially if they are American.

Best post I've read in a long time -

 

[pbaldy]

If there was more Mercs, BM's and Jags in the car park than you could count, then I suggest the US education system must once again be questioned over its teaching of basic mathmatics and mental arithmatic

Great sidestep of the issue. I'm definitely outgunned here. I'm trying to use logic and facts, and I'm up against... Well, I don't know what I'm up against, but it's not logic and facts, and it's certainly not an open mind. I yield to you as well. We were trying to hide it, but you're right: all the black people here are either poor and helpless or ruthless drug dealers. If they have a nice car, they either stole it or bought it with drug money.

 

[KenHigg]

Great sidestep of the issue. I'm definitely outgunned here. I'm trying to use logic and facts, and I'm up against... Well, I don't know what I'm up against, but it's not logic and facts, and it's certainly not an open mind. ...

I'm not sure what you're up in arms about - It's status quo as I see it for the simpleton duet...

 

[Bodisathva]

Plus he was black, so it gave them the perfect excuse to dish out a beating.

Wouldn't have mattered if he was a Flying Purple People Eater...

he needed a medal, getting 100mph out of a Hyundai is not easy

I'm still trying to figure out where he found a long enough downhill run to accomplish such a feat

 

[ColinEssex]

Here's an example of the digging statements that are always thrown it, off subject and appears to me, to be totally unnecessary. You take something that we value and has honor and piss all over it.
My dad was in the Army, my brother retired from the Army, and for me, this is something that has a place of honor.

Keep your knickers on Shaney if American TV programmes like M.A.S.H. can belittle the purple heart - like the episode where a soldier had an appendix operation and got one, or the one where Frank Burns accidentally shot his foot and he got one - what the hell are we supposed to think? The USA can't chuck out all this stuff on TV then wonder why people think the way they do the impression given is that if a soldier breaks a nail or has a skin graze then they get a medal. Hollywood is not good PR for the USA. Oh and you're not the only person to have relatives to have served in the armed forces.

You, apparently, don't give a crap what anyone values....especially if they are American.

when Americans start thinking about other peoples values instead of being totally insular, maybe things may change.

Does the US government think of peoples values before they bomb them? NO

Does the US think of other peoples values whilst they ignore the Kyoto agreement for payment of backhanders?

Does the US think of other peoples values whilst stockpiling oil so "we'll be ok" when things get tight?

Does the US think of other peoples values arming Israel to kill innocent people and children on their behalf?

Does Ken think of our values before he belittles and mocks our Queen? (god bless her) - who knows what Ken thinks

Great sidestep of the issue.

not sidestepping anything. The quote was

and there were more Mercedes, BMW's, Jaquar's etc. in the parking lot than you could count.

I was merely speculating on how many this would have to be to make it "more than you could count" or is it a fault of the US education system that restricts peoples counting ability how big a car park (parking lot) would it have to be? - as big as Heathrow airport? there are many questions raised in that statement

We were trying to hide it, but you're right: all the black people here are either poor and helpless or ruthless drug dealers. If they have a nice car, they either stole it or bought it with drug money.

I didn't say that at all - I said

The general Hollywood and TV trend is to show pimps and drug barons as predominately black. Some are white - true. But that is one reason as to why you may apparently see so many Mercs etc being driven by blacks.

I would certainly not class all black people in this way, as you have.

Please pay more attention when reading the posts

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

I'm not sure what you're up in arms about - It's status quo as I see it for the simpleton duet...

Great British rock band. link

Col

 

[KenHigg]

Does Ken think of our values before he belittles and mocks our Queen? (god bless her)

Here's a deal for you - Stop insulting our president and I'll stop insulting your Queen. Either take the deal or shut up.

... who knows what Ken thinks

Then allow me to clarify: I think you and Rich and nomore probably are nice guys in general, but around here you are too often rude and hypocrytical.

(god bless her)

Thats even more funny when you embed it the rest of your manure...

 

[Bodisathva]

when Americans start thinking about other peoples values instead of being totally insular, maybe things may change

Does the US government think of peoples values before they bomb them? NO

Does the US think of other peoples values whilst they ignore the Kyoto agreement for payment of backhanders?

Does the US think of other peoples values whilst stockpiling oil so "we'll be ok" when things get tight?

Does the US think of other peoples values arming Israel to kill innocent people and children on their behalf?

Does Ken think of our values before he belittles and mocks our Queen? (god bless her) - who knows what Ken thinks

See? Those are exactly the kind of blanket statements that irritate the hell out of me You are applying attributes of the current administration to the entirety of the population even though the opinion polls have him at the lowest point of any prez in history. Look at the current approval ratings from across the country and you'll find that the majority most certainly do not approve!

Would you please stop arbitrarily grouping me in with the sheep? Some of us do have minds of our own, understand what spin is, understand twisting of facts, and are not deceived. I'll thank you to remember that there are some of us with IQ's far above the level that you and your fellow bashers presume to attribute to Americans as a whole...and we are not amused

As far as the Queen (Gesundheit!) goes, seems to me that a little of your own medicine would do more good than appealing to your sense of open-mindedness.

 

[KenHigg]

See?...

Let it go... Being belligerent is in his blood. Some people a simply born with it, some pick it up along they way - Who knows why he's that way

 

[ColinEssex]

Here's a deal for you - Stop insulting our president and I'll stop insulting your Queen. Either take the deal or shut up.

not comparing like with like there Kenny. Your President is a warmongering, moneygrabbing dictator who kills in the name of a fairy tale religion - not a description I would allocate to our Queen (god bless her)

Then allow me to clarify: I think you and Rich and nomore probably are nice guys in general, but around here you are too often rude and hypocrytical.

Rich and I merely try to point out things which are unfortunately not usually known to you for various reasons.

Col

 

[KenHigg]

Rich and I merely try to point out things which are unfortunately not usually known to you for various reasons. Col

Nah, I think you Rich and NoMore are just feed up with your broken system and want to point your finger at us so that you won't have to make any effort to fix yours...