Lets Stop George Bush before he Destroys the Whole Planet Earth.

[Kraj]

]There's nothing wrong with my character and in any event we're talking about America

I'm having a vague recollection of some prominent Brit saying at some point, "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject". Seems appropos for some reason...

 

[Rich]

appropos...

Him speak with forked tongue, please try and use English

I'm having a vague recollection of some prominent Brit saying at some point, "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject".

and I have a vague recollection of someone saying
Facts are the enemy of truth
what's your point?

 

[ColinEssex]

I personally know at least 10 who make well into 6 figures. I went to a high school reunion of an old "all-black" school, and there were more Mercedes, BMW's, Jaquar's etc. in the parking lot than you could count.

US TV and Hollywood nearly always portray successful rich black men as "pimps" or drug barons, very lucrative business sex and drugs - and before Ken jumps down my throat by saying never believe Hollywood - there must be some substance in it or they [Hollywood] wouldn't do it - after all, they don't show white men or hispanic in that way.

Whities are usually portrayed as the goodies, blacks are always the baddies.

If there was more Mercs, BM's and Jags in the car park than you could count, then I suggest the US education system must once again be questioned over its teaching of basic mathmatics and mental arithmatic

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

Why have you assumed that you need to search for positive aspects of America?

My point was that out of the billions of different available topics to choose from, the sole point of focus seems to be the negative aspects of America.

So thats why I thought listing some positive / good things to come out of the USA may redress the balance.

Anyway, I had a long think overnight and made a list.


1) The Fender Stratocaster
2) Elvis Presley


Col

 

[Rich]

Well we could grant them coffee, even if they do drink it like cold dishwater themselves, though I have to add that they're ashamed of their women over there

 

[ColinEssex]

Well we could grant them coffee, even if they do drink it like cold dishwater themselves, though I have to add that they're ashamed of their women over there

Coffee is from South America isn't it? You know, Brazil and all that.

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

Well we could grant them coffee, even if they do drink it like cold dishwater themselves, though I have to add that they're ashamed of their women over there

Coffee is from South America isn't it? You know, Brazil and all that.

Col

 

[KenHigg]

Coffee is from South America isn't it? You know, Brazil and all that.

Col

Maybe he meant our infamous cigarette tobacco

 

[Rich]

Coffee is from South America isn't it? You know, Brazil and all that.

Col

Yes I was just giving them credit for its popularity here, I'm trying to look for positives but it's difficult when overwhelmed by all the negatives

 

[ColinEssex]

Yes I was just giving them credit for its popularity here, I'm trying to look for positives but it's difficult when overwhelmed by all the negatives

Oh I see - I was thinking you'd heard that the USA was part of South America or something.

I've already posted a comprehensive list of positive / good things that have come out of the USA. Is there any more? I spent ages thinking about it last night.

Col

 

[KenHigg]

Oh I see - I was thinking you'd heard that the USA was part of South America or something.

I've already posted a comprehensive list of positive / good things that have come out of the USA. Is there any more? I spent ages thinking about it last night.

Col

You must think a lot of wiggle hips and guitars if that balanced it

 

[Rich]

I've already posted a comprehensive list of positive / good things that have come out of the USA.Is there any more? Col

Nah it would be much easier to post a comprehensive list of all the good things they've had from us

 

[ColinEssex]

You must think a lot of wiggle hips and guitars if that balanced it

That was all I could think of. Sadly it doesn't redress the balance even if we add Rich's South American coffee to the list.

Oh, I've just thought of another the Zippo fag lighter - excellent, I have one I use all the time.

Now we're motoring - the list has grown to nearly 4 things

Col

 

[ShaneMan]

US TV and Hollywood nearly always portray successful rich black men as "pimps" or drug barons, very lucrative business sex and drugs - and before Ken jumps down my throat by saying never believe Hollywood - there must be some substance in it or they [Hollywood] wouldn't do it - after all, they don't show white men or hispanic in that way.

Whities are usually portrayed as the goodies, blacks are always the baddies.

If there was more Mercs, BM's and Jags in the car park than you could count, then I suggest the US education system must once again be questioned over its teaching of basic mathmatics and mental arithmatic

Col

I really don't think you can use Hollywood as a gauge. They have shown white men as cops going around killing everything is sight, blowing the crap out of a large city, yet that doesn't happen in real life.

I think one of Doc_Man's comments on this subject is being some what lost. He said that the opportunity is here. I have worked in the disabled community for 20 years now, which means I deal with a lot of government funding to get medical equipment paid for, which in turn means I deal with a lot of low income families. When I go to these project 8 housing, it always amazes me how many men are home, during the day and not working. It's not because they can't get a job cause jobs are available. I think we have created a system in this country, that if someone wants to sit back and let the government hand them a check every month, then they will take it and now we are several generations into this and these men today do not know anything different. The Americans, that are posting here, are trying to tell you what we live everyday, but you really don't want to hear it. If any man of any color wants to take hold of the opportunity to work, then he can and can have a good job with good benefits and a good retirement, including blacks. We all live in communities that see a large number of blacks that have done that and are doing well.

 

[Brianwarnock]

When I go to these project 8 housing, it always amazes me how many men are home, during the day and not working. It's not because they can't get a job cause jobs are available. I think we have created a system in this country, that if someone wants to sit back and let the government hand them a check every month, then they will take it and now we are several generations into this and these men today do not know anything different.

Sounds just like the UK

Brian

 

[Rich]

We all live in communities that see a large number of blacks that have done that and are doing well.

The figures for Texas don't support that theory

 

[Rich]

Sounds just like the UK

Brian

Would that apply to the whites here or coloured?

 

[Bodisathva]

I think we have created a system in this country, that if someone wants to sit back and let the government hand them a check every month, then they will take it and now we are several generations into this and these men today do not know anything different...If any man of any color wants to take hold of the opportunity to work, then he can and can have a good job with good benefits and a good retirement, including blacks.

And let's not forget that most (not all) of those living off of the fat, bloated, carcass that is our welfare system will also sit, whine, and complain that their lazy worthless a** doesn't get enough of a handout and it's because of the jews, whites, blacks, hispanics, or any other segment of society that keeps the emphasis on where the fault really lies.

...which in turn, perpetuates the fallicies that Rich continues to spew forth

 

[ShaneMan]

And let's not forget that most (not all) of those living off of the fat, bloated, carcass that is our welfare system will also sit, whine, and complain that their lazy worthless a** doesn't get enough of a handout and it's because of the jews, whites, blacks, hispanics, or any other segment of society that keeps the emphasis on where the fault really lies.

...which in turn, perpetuates the fallicies that Rich continues to spew forth

Totally agree.

 

[Rich]

And let's not forget that most (not all) of those living off of the fat, bloated, carcass that is our welfare system will also sit, whine, and complain that their lazy worthless a** doesn't get enough of a handout and it's because of the jews, whites, blacks, hispanics, or any other segment of society that keeps the emphasis on where the fault really lies.

...which in turn, perpetuates the fallicies that Rich continues to spew forth

That's it, blame and target the poor for the faults in your system, it's the easiest thing in the world for those that have employment to simply blame those that don't and point the finger at them.